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When cutting box joints on my PC4216 Dovetail Jig, I am looking to keep my board orientation cut in the correct order so that the grain I choose for the outside of a box will be as planned/marked. Believe it or not the manual leaves a piece or two of information out. I have searched and searched and the closest I have come is from Rockler's Dovetail jig manual referring to through Dovetails.... Tails out, Pins in in reference to the inside of the box and how it's orientation to the jig.

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That confusion is why I gave up on my Rockler dovetail jig. Don't do it often enough to remember. I bought a Sommerfeld jig you use on the table, Leigh makes one as well. Much simpler, and they have a video on how to use it that includes markings you add to the jig itself to help you recall what goes where. I suppose you'll find some informaiton on YouTube. For example Norm Abrams has an old video on using that jig. I suspect there are other videos on there. Just haven't searched them out since I'm not using that jig. This vid might be helpful:

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Thanks Tom... I haven't seen a video or detailed instructions on any dovetail jig to make it a Non-PITA. Those there included. I believe it was suggested to re-gift the jig and save yourself the headache.

Against better judgement I am going to (beat the dead horse) work that jig until I get it for both through dovetails and Box joints. Years back JLORD was on here and was a whiz at it... I PM'd him but I guess he is on a hiatus.

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@Marco - if I understand correctly you're confused about the orientation of the workpiece in the jig. My belief is that the inside faces of the front/back/sides always face out or up????


Try this video to see if it helps - Mark Eaton was a demonstrator for Kreg tools and attended many woodworking shows. The jig he demos is a Busy Bee but it should be no different than the PC jig.

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Thanks Vince. I watched the video and Mark did well informing but he was detailing the half blind dovetail joint which almost all "Jig" videos cover.

On my quest to revive my PC 4216 Dovetail Jig I was surprised that I had bought almost 9 years ago and that I had used it for a while then stopped. I knew it was confusing for set up and operation but after being covered in shavings with my first cut I remembered how big a mess it made. Seems like I had to make a "milk jug dust collector" to help with the mess and have 2 routers to save time and aggravation.

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Marco - not sure if you've seen this video but I think he does a good job of explaining the setup for box joints on the PC4216


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A much simpler (for me anyway) method is a simple jig like this one made by the original owners of this forum works like a charm and is so easy to make out of wood, plastics or even metal. The jig you show with the correct comb is fine for dovetail joints, they were made in China and sold throughout the world under many different names and qualities.
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The first question I would have is can you do box joints on the PC dovetail jig without getting a separate template. I have a the PC Omnijig and you can't do box joints without getting as separate template.

Second, I would recommend making or buying a box joint jig (not Rockler) and doing them on the table saw. It's so much easier. I know this doesn't answer your question but your dilemma would no longer be one with table saw box joints.
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The first question I would have is can you do box joints on the PC dovetail jig without getting a separate template. I have a the PC Omnijig and you can't do box joints without getting as separate template.

Second, I would recommend making or buying a box joint jig (not Rockler) and doing them on the table saw. It's so much easier. I know this doesn't answer your question but your dilemma would no longer be one with table saw box joints.
Randy thanks for the input. The Box Joint is the same template as the Dovetail on the PC 4212 so the question of orientating the sides would be the same for both. I am near the end of re-doing my shop and the exterior of the house and when done will be taking yy big hard head and beat it against the jig until I get my answers and come closer to mastering the jig.

I had planned to make or buy a box joint jig for the table saw but refused to after I had spent $180 for one for the router years ago..... Hard headed and cheap are not a good combination.
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