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post #61 of 70 (permalink) Old 02-02-2020, 01:15 PM
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You could get away without drilling on a screw size up to about #8. After that its a good idea to drill a pilot hole the size of the shank of the screw between the threads (thread root to root).

I sometimes use an air nozzle to blow glue into a crack. I read once that the primary cause of joint failure is over clamping. You squeeze out so much glue that there isn't enough left to make a proper bond. Usually you need just enough pressure to close the gap and that's enough.
That posted video clip of the matchstick modeler, a couple of weeks ago; he didn't use any clamps...just slid his match sticks into his glue bead and moved on to the next one. Those large sheet panels that he pre-fabed looked pretty solid!
That has been mentioned in the past; sliding the components onto the glue seems to work well. Again, little or no actual clamping.
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There are lots of very low pressure but highly effective methods of clamping work such as surgical tubing, masking tape, rubber bands, spring clamps, and even just putting a weight on top. The one handed clamps don't put a lot of pressure on either but lots of times that's all you need.
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Glued and screwed - construction of the ladder is done.

Yes, I know it was not "glue" that was used, but "adhesived" just didn't have the right ring to it.
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nicely done...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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What is your plan for keeping the stringers from spreading...?
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Nothing more than has been done. The stringers are joined to the treads and gussets by four structural fasteners and structural adhesive, as discussed previously. If they spread, they spread.

The whole situation has changed. My daughter has come to the realization she cannot afford to stay on this property and will be out by the end of July. I'll be installing some adhesive tread grit strips, 4" wide and then the ladder will go up. Snow has melted enough to get at the base. I'll install the ladder and my granddaughter will get to use it for a while. After that, I'm not going to care what happens.

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The ladder is nearly done. It is in place and just needs to be positioned and anchored.

My granddaughter and I put the grip treads on over the past couple weeks. She helped by applying a black primer to the D. fir treads over a week ago. Yesterday, she did a lot of the work of cutting the self-adhesive sand grit tread strips to length and rounding the corners. I assisted with the utility knife/guidance. She put them onto the ladder treads (first photo). Grandma (the former wife) came by and her reaction, upon seeing it for the first time was "just a bit of overkill?" In the words of Bill The Cat "THPPPTT".

Today, we transported the ladder to Holly's house and set it in place. She definitely likes it (second photo).

It doesn't quite fit as I planned it. Not sure if it is too tall or just what. With the top tread lined up as planned (third photo), the stringers stick up too far at the top (third and fourth photos). Pushing the stringers out to where they should be, the top tread is too far away (fifth photo).

I can fill the gap between top tread and platform without losing anything, I think. Not sure if trimming the bottom ends of the stringers will help with anything.

I am quite pleased with it overall, however, and the final fitting should get done in the next couple days.

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Looks great, Rick! That'll get a LOT of use this summer.

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Looks great, Rick! That'll get a LOT of use this summer.

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Yeah, even by me, too.


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Looks great, Rick! That'll get a LOT of use this summer.

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Informational update, what the ladder looks like, in the summer.

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