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Default Any suggestion for a Dovetail Jig?

I don't do many dovetail, maybe several times a year for small furniture. I used to use hand saw and chisel to make it. It is kind of painful.
I just bought a Craftsman router last weekend. I searched online and found too many dovetail jigs, templates. A lot of them are over $100. I don't need that kind of professional one for my work. Any suggestion for my case? Is a template enough for me?

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40.oo dollars dovetail jig, by the way this jig will do both types of dovetails..
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I don't do many dovetail, maybe several times a year for small furniture. I used to use hand saw and chisel to make it. It is kind of painful.
I just bought a Craftsman router last weekend. I searched online and found too many dovetail jigs, templates. A lot of them are over $100. I don't need that kind of professional one for my work. Any suggestion for my case? Is a template enough for me?

Thanks.



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I'm kinda partial to the ChestMate myself.

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I think the first question you need to ask yourself is whether you want to do only half-blind DTs or also through DTs. Then, do you want them all with fixed spacing, or do you want adjustable spacing. Fixed spacing imposes limitations on the width of the stock, so as to conform to the geometry of the jig. Adjustable spacing removes that limitation, but introduces much greater complexity of set-up.

Then, there's the whole issue of fiddle factor. The better jigs are designed to minimize that as much as possible, while still providing flexibility. It's a time-spent versus money-spent sort of issue, I think.

That said, I'm a fan of the Porter Cable 4212, which has templates for both 1/4" and 1/2" DTs in thin and thick stock, correspondingly, and does half-blind and through DTs, as well as box joints.

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Hi Will,
For a jig I use the PC. Once you remember some simple rules to go by it is a simple & quick jig to use.

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Hi Will

I use the Katie jig, no rules just pop the bit in the router table or you can use your hand router as well ,and make the all parts for drawers/boxes in about 2 mins.or less..

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Just a note ...You can make your own very easy and cheap. so to say you don't need to put out 240.oo bucks for one.


" Dovetail jigs are like soft drinks-there are so many choices that selecting one for your shop can be tough.
To make this process simpler for you, here are eight great reasons why the Katie Jig is your best bet:

1. No complicated assembly-Just take it out of the box and use it immediately. No alignment.
2. No lengthy manual to read-Just a few pages of clear, easy-to-follow directions show you how to use the jig to achieve professional results.
3. Only one set-up necessary to cut pins & tails-All other dovetail jigs need two set-ups to complete both parts of a joint.
4. Hand-held or router table operations-Works equally well using either method of operation.
5. The perfect glue gap of .006"-010"-between pins & tails is produced by matched bits & guides.
6. Hassel-free variable spacing-Just choose your guide/tuning for positions and go to work.
Even use different thickness boards with no ill effects.
7. Handles stock up to 12" wide-more than wide enouh for all but the latest projects.

Quality constructions ensures unwavering precision and long-term durability.
While many dovetail/box joint jigs are made of steel rods or bars (poor choices for precison), the Katie Jig uses rigid, engineered extrusions that are manufactured to + .002 tolerances, from high quality aluminum...then gold anodized for lasting dependability.
These super-rigid extrusions and close tolerances make the Katie Jig virtually vibration-proof and enable it to maintain the .006"-.010" pin/tail glue gap clearances that result in perfect, tight-fitting joints...Every time!

Set Includes: Pre-assembled Jig w/ *(9) 5/8" dovetail guide/tuning forks * (2) edge stops * 7/16" Dovetail Router Bit * 5/8" Pattern Bit * 5/32" Allen Wrench * Written Instructions. "
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what do you do when you need new backer boards on Katie. Make your own?
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Hi Will

I use the Katie jig, no rules just pop the bit in the router table or you can use your hand router as well ,and make the all parts for drawers/boxes in about 2 mins.or less..
If you want a symmetrical joint the rule you need to follow is for drawer sizing so you end up with the traditional half-pins top & bottom. This pretty much applies to all jigs that use a fixed template to follow. The next step up would be the variable spacing jigs but they will require a little more setup. You cannot get the thin pins or tails with jigs as you can with a hand cut joint because you can only go as thin as the shank of the bit. So it all comes down to how much time you are willing to invest in your joints to get the look that you want.

"The Porter-Cable 4200 series dovetail jig will help you cut these joints efficiently. An accessory kit will enable you to
cut miniature versions of these joints for small gift boxes or cubbyhole drawers on a roll-top desk. The 4200 series
also has the capability to cut more advanced joints (dovetails that skip pins, wood hinges, end-to-end joints, various
types of angle joints, and joints with inlays)."

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I think you should go for the Porter Cable 4200 series. You can start with the 4210 for not much over $100 and then buy additional templates when you need them.
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Hi KR

Yes, very easy to replace one but it will be a long time for that job..

Just a note you are not locked into one pattern the Katie jig comes with spacers or you can make your own to setup any pattern like on long dovetail if you want to..or one or two dovetails and than put in a box joint in the same board like say in the corners of the box or drawer.
The neat thing about the Katie jig ,if you need the box to slide in a hole all the parts are cut to the right size, no math needed , just cut the parts and it will fit in the hole every time...if you want to used guides for the drawers just cut the stock 1" shorter for the guides to sit in the hole also.

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