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This may be an old question on router forums but it has me stumped.

I have old canister Hoover vac whose hose was shot. None of the fittings to the vac were standard openings because of the wiring that ran through the hose so I pitched it.

That left an irregular opening where the original hose slotted and turned into place to connect with the bag.

I need something to plug up the hole with a through pipe that is the right size for the bag and the router hose connection at the other end, then to the output port of the Craftsmen router.

So far looked at plumbing fittings. The goal is to glue and screw the new adapter onto the hoover and have it just for router use. The flange can be round or square but I have not seen anything on a plumbing flange that is wide enough to cover the irregular 2 in. opening on the canister.
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You might try something like this:

Multi-Step Hose Reducer - Rockler Woodworking Tools

Cut the adapter to the next size up from the OD size of your hose, and then use some minimally expanding foam to help secure the hose and eliminate leaks. Use duck tape or etc to further secure it. Then cut the small end down to a standard size and you wouldn't be restricted from just using it at the router.

I will say that unless you have a particular attachment to the Hoover, or it's uniquely powerful, I wouldn't invest much in your solution as replacements come around Black Friday that would suit you very well.



EDIT - I think I was trying to help you with the wrong end of the hose there. But the step adapter might give you some ideas.

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The end of the hose that is the problem is the irregularly shaped hoover end-- something like a three leaf clover. That's why a flange to cover the irregularities is important. Once something can be attached and screwed in place (even if slight leakage) the adapters and reducers and such can make the connection to the bag at one end and a new hose at the other. I've thought of such things as port tubes for audio speakers sold to DIY builders (my hobby) as well. Nothing seems to suit.

And yes, the Stanley small "wall mount" canister vac has gone on deal for about $20. I think the Hoover will have better suction and allow a longer hose to be installed. I'm looking for a hose deal too. Hose for household sump pumps are cheapest but have no flexibility. It seems that the hose for routers is way overpriced.


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Hi Lon

I get my hoses from Good-Will stores and 2nd hand shops, many of the vac.that go in don't work so they pull the parts off and sale them for a song..

I also get some from the Vac.repair shops they have tons of used ones, but they are a bit higher in price the norm..


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The flexibility and diameter of the hose for a router should be pliant and close to the
port on the router in diameter. I guess some outfits like Woodcrafters and Sears have cornered the supply of this and are charging what the traffic an bear. But I don't think it is made uniquely for router hobbyists. There should be a supply of bulk someplace-- like hospital supply or something. These discussions are always good to think of new things to help the hobby.

Router forums is of great value and I hope this topic turns up some results.

As to thrift shops. I go to those regularly. I have two of the Hoover Spirits: the one whose hose wore out and power head's shell could no longer be screwed or glued (replaced the belt from slipping off regularly) and a a second one I found on the curb while driving by. Still no power head but the hose is in better shape. It's important that I use household vacs because here in an apartment, a shop vac would give away the small amount of craft with power tools I can get away with. ;-)

I really thought plumbing would have something for this. Perhaps a real plumbing supply place would have the right piece. But I'd have to be able to "name" it and I can't.
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Hi

It looks like if you cut off the funny end it will fit right into the router port.

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A generous helping of epoxy can fix a lot of those kinds of problems. The epoxies I have in mind are the ones you can thread like PC-7 or Belzona.

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I've been using the regular hoover hose with my better Hoover Spirit. After I cut off the end of one of the crevasse tools, that fit into the Router port. I thought I was done. But the hose is way too heavy, short, and difficult to maneuver. That's why I want to put the
right sort of flexible hose directly to the vac. I have to look at router hoses more closely. They do have some sort of nozzles at both ends. But they never go on deal that I have seen. :-(
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Just saw this on the previous page at Rockler:

2-1/2'' to 3/4'' Rubber Hose Adaptor - Rockler Woodworking Tools

Same idea but it has a flange on which to screw to an irregular cutout. Maybe these are in the store at Sears where I can measure the square flange. Thanks for finding this. I'd prefer to get something local. With this sort of fitting available there's a good change a local hardware store has them. Anyway, another step forward.
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And here is a nice hose of about the right dimension:

Amazon.com: Dust Collection Power Tool Hose with Fittings By Peachtree Woodworking - PW382: Home Improvement

I could buy a whole vac for that. It might be the final answer. I've gone down this road before but never bought one.
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