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I am going to buy a bunch of tools right away and am pretty sure I will just upgrade to a Leigh dovetail jig and sell the Rockler. What are your opinions of the 2 models? I am not sure I need 24", but have read some reviews that say the D4R is easier to set up and use. The 18" Super is about $200 cheaper than the other which is a sizable amount of money. However, I also know that once spent the money isn't really noticed. So I want to buy one that is the easiest to use and will allow me to do the job the best. For those of you with experience which do you think?
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oh yes you will....
on your very 1st chest or want to gang cut or ...................

I had the 12''....
wasn't long before I upgraded...

took the long route...
D3R up grade to 24...
upgraded the D3 to D4...
sold the upgraded unit and bought the D4R...
see where this went...

had the Omni originally and gifted that...
FWIW... that Omni has been re-gifted several times...
the Omni, I believe, is very close to the Rockler...
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Thanks I just checked that out and it says it can not be used on my little router table. Otherwise it looks good. With all the other tools I am going to buy, I can't afford to upgrade the router table at this time.
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For what it is worth:

I have the older Leigh 24" D3 jig, which is similar to the new D4 series. Works well, but like all dovetail jigs it does have a learning curve! The more you work with it, the set-up becomes easier and quicker.

If I was to use my D3 tomorrow, I would need to take time to work through the manual. Leigh receives raves about its very good manual. As with any dovetail jig, you will need to spend some time setting up the jig, adjust the router, and learn how to cut with it. If you 'spring for' a Leigh make notes in the margin as the jig settings. It will save you time later on!

I also have the 1601--16" and 201--24" Keller dovetail jigs. These are very easy to work with -- either with a hand-held router or a router table. I have not tried to cut variable spacing dovetails with the Keller jigs, but have been told it can easily be done. For Those-Not-In-The-Know about Keller jigs: Keller dovetail jigs: Simple, fast & accurate woodworking tools

I think if I was doing it all over, I would probably just have the Keller. While variable spaced dovetails might be easier on the Leigh and Leigh has conversion attachments for mortise and tenon and finger joints, you will need to decide if the expense of the Leigh will be worth the cost of the accessories, learning curve, and set-up times
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I have the Leigh D4R Pro, and I couldn't be happier with it. I've cut through dovetails both large and small, and I love the adjustability to set the dovetail spacing to whatever I want. I like having that extra capacity that the 24" brings. I rarely use all that width, but it's there if I need it. Also, the Leigh instruction manual is top-notch. It explains principles instead of just teaching recipes.
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Thanks Ray for the information. I sent an email to Leigh asking about the jigs and someone called me probably within one half of an hour. I never asked for a phone call and certainly never expected a response so quickly. If that is any indication of their customer service I am impressed. Unfortunately after talking with the gentleman it seems that the D4R would probably be the better buy even with the big price difference.
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forgot to mention the CS/TS at Leigh is outstanding and proactive...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Thanks I just checked that out and it says it can not be used on my little router table. Otherwise it looks good. With all the other tools I am going to buy, I can't afford to upgrade the router table at this time.
You know, its not so hard to make a simple table top on which you could use the 24 inch Leigh. You don't even need a fence for that jig. Commit a 2'x4' chunk of ply glued up with a same size piece of MDF and you are on your way. A router plate isn't all that expensive and with the jig, you're going to set height once for the whole process.

I always go for the better (larger capacity) tool. I hate acting in haste and repenting at leisure. So I'd go for the 24 inch. No regrets down the line because you bought for your small table, but now have a full size table.
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You know, its not so hard to make a simple table top on which you could use the 24 inch Leigh. .
some are more complex,,,
the left end of this table has the bolt patterns for the D4R, FMT pro, RT table out feed ball rollers and both miter knives......
the RT table top doubles as a material rest...
of course there is the light...
that vertical rod that looks like mom's ironing board accessory is to keep the router cords out of the way while using the Leigh jigs....


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If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
"SNORK Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy”
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