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After many years of neglect, and not having had much time to tend to the issue, my oak kitchen cabinet door has separated, and some black mold has made themselves at home.

This is the worst one of the 2 doors that sits under the sink. This isn't from a leak, or flood, its just water splashes here and there, that caught and collected in the groove of the lower rail. I suspect the biscuit is swollen up.

Any way to disassemble this thing, and repair it?

The rail/frame is impossible to find, and make.

I'm all ears, and hoping for suggestion on how to go about repairing this.

Would soaking it, or blasting it with hot steam help to unbond the glue?
Soak it in the bath tube with something?

For the mold ... Bleach or TPS? What's TPS?
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Hi,

Not sure adding more moisture is going to help. I personally like to use a heat gun to break glue free. A hair dryer would work too. Just keep the heat moving. don't keep it in one spot. If you have a "cat's paw", small pry bar, use it in conjunction with the heat.

For the mold, use bleach. I'm sure others will chime in on this part.

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Joe, I think you are going to have a hard time getting those doors apart. Most cabinet makers use nails as well as glue. I replaced some oak cabinet doors for my daughter. When I tried to take them apart to salvage the oak, I ended up having to saw them up and that is when I discovered the nails. You might end up having to build new doors. In fact that might be the easiest solution.

If you can get rid of the mold, maybe you can just re-glue and clamp the doors back together.

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I've swept the area with a neodymium magnet, and there doesn't see to be any pin nail there holding the panel in place. I couldn't see any sign of a pin nail head, or filler putty pin points to indicate a pin nail.

Fingers cross.... I don't mind rebuilding the thing if I had the right profile bit available, however, there just isn't. I went to Lee Valley Tools up here to check for a bit that might do the trick, but alas, no luck.

Heat gun!!!! I think that makes perfect sense ..... THANK YOU!!!! I'll try that out.

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Ok, no nail, but the glue used on the lower rail did hold on to the lips on some of the lower rails, and was hence ripped off. No biggie ... Glue destroyith, Glue Repairith ...

But good god, I have a mold bank in the grove where the panel goes at the bottom due to the air pocket there.

Time to take this work out doors, mask, and wet sand ... no machine for me....

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Hi Joeboxer

Looks like fire wood, keep the panel and make a new frame

Think mold,it's hard to get it out of wood...

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Bob, no matter how sensible or logical your advice is.... la la la la la ...... I'm not listenning ... la la la la!!!!

:P Three letters ... R ... O ... T ....
There is rot in the rail ....

And the part of the panel that was sticking into the bottom frame grove is rotted pretty bad, so that might not be salvageable unless ....

I'm thinking, CPES or Minwax wood hardener. I can use some to repair my catamaran this spring. The plywood deck has delaminate enough to let some water into one of the hull.

I'd love to start making door panels and rails ... but the previous home owner didn't have the foresight to leave behind the matching frame profile router bit.

The video was excellent - The profile is close ... maybe if I look harder, I can find my profile. Profile on the video #8781 is extremely close, except mine is an elongated version, which is 3" wide. The one there is 2.5"

This is one frame profile I did not see at my local lee valley tools retailer.

I might as well watch the video over and over again ... .... I have this gut feeling that I'll need to memorize it.

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And here are some pictures ...
Image IMG_4223 was before I started scraping the mold off. The edge started crumbling when I put the chisel to it.
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Hi Joe,

Unless I'm looking at the wrong profile, this looks close to what you have.

http://pricecutter.com/medium-panel-raisers/p/P15-3906/

http://pricecutter.com/large-panel-raisers/p/P15-3918/

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Hi Joe,

Unless I'm looking at the wrong profile, this looks close to what you have.

http://pricecutter.com/medium-panel-raisers/p/P15-3906/

http://pricecutter.com/large-panel-raisers/p/P15-3918/
I've not looked at the panel profile yet. But thanks for the head start.

The profile I'm concerned with is the frame/rail profile

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