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I would say my reason for buying was because the last multi segments cut was with my sliding miter saw not happy with results.
I had forgotten about the incra . In fact I have the Incra express sled which uses the miter gauge . I remember using that setup and getting good results. Much better results than sliding miter saw.
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Yes I had contacted the supplier (Jack, the inventor) and he was very helpful but shipping to and from Australia is too expensive for a simple exchange. They sent me an another one at their expense which was great service but I was serious about selling them. I can't see myself doing segments and I really do find the Incra gauge is top quality. It was an impulse buy after I saw a few you tube videos but they showed the use of stock standard miter gauges not the "better quality" Incras, Kreg's etc. So they might be the bees knees for some but not all.
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Glad Jack tried to help you like he did...

Harry Sinclair, the guy that started this thread lives in Assieland... he may be interested in some kind of deal... (??)

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Well some of you don't understand the problem fully. The head on the Incra is narrower than most it's to short to hit the pins. However when I bought my Inca it came as a package with a fence that attaches . Well with the fence it hits the pins . I have a regular miter gauge and the pins at 8 segments hit the notches for an extension fence.
Mine came with a steel bar you use with the Incra that spans between pins. You lay that in and butt the Incra head up against it. There's a little groove in the storage case that holds this bar.
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Mine came with a steel bar you use with the Incra that spans between pins. You lay that in and butt the Incra head up against it. There's a little groove in the storage case that holds this bar.
Tom, I like that,a metal bar would be perfect to lay across the pins and run the miter gauge up against to set.
Both my miter gauges,the Bosch and the Incra V27 have wooden sacrificial fences,which are required in my mind ,already installed on them when I set the angle.

I might add neither one of my sets didn't have that included.

I am thinking that if a person was using the Rockler miter sled ,that a person could make a pattern cut on a piece of plywood ,then use it on the sled to set the angle. Just thinking out loud.

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@Herb Stoops Come to think of it, I did order it as an add on item, plus 2 extra pins. I think you could use any straight edge to do this. I often buy accessories I'm not sure I'll use because I may forget they are available later. My money's going to be tighter now, so I will be more selective in my purchases from now on. I made pretty good money for some time, but the cash flow diminishes with my pretty much forced retirement.
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I bought mine to get easy repeatable results. Several of my upcoming projects will use the segment jig. No more math just number of segments. I only bought the one jig . The segment number jig seems to be all I need. I only bought that jig not both. I just got 2 paying jobs from my project build of my tractors and wagons at Nursing home I volunteer at and buildbprojects. The administrator from one of the nursing homes like some much she wants me to build one for her nursing home and 1 for herself. More work for the jig, making the wheels.

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Got the Segment Jig in the mail the other day and just had a chance to open the box - as has been said, this is an extremely well made piece of equipment.

First thing that I did was check it with the Incra gauge. After taking the tab off the end, I put the pins in the holes for an 8-sided segment (the holes for 5, 6, 7 & 8 are relatively close to each other, the results would be the same). With a 6" scale set over the pins (as was said, the face of the Incra gauge is short so a wooden face would be recommended), I set the Incra to the pins and then wiggled it to check the fit - it was noticeably loose in the slot of the Miter Set. Turning the assembly on it's side, it was obvious that the rear adjustment button (?) in the Incra was not engaged in the slot. A closer check shows that the distance between the two rear buttons on the Incra is about the same as the length of the Miter Set - this would explain why the Incra reportedly gives inconsistent results. If you had a spare hand, you could push the Incra to the right (the black buttons are the non-adjustable ones, right?) and then push the head against the pins and tighten down.

So I guess it's on to Plan "B". I ordered the ball plungers shown in the last two photos - bought #8's now wondering if I should have gone with the #10's, but I can always drill out the smaller holes and retap if it becomes a problem - and will tap the bar on my OEM Delta gauge, making sure that I'll always have at least two plungers in contact. May take me a while to get around to this with everything that's going on.
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Got the Segment Jig in the mail the other day and just had a chance to open the box - as has been said, this is an extremely well made piece of equipment.

First thing that I did was check it with the Incra gauge. After taking the tab off the end, I put the pins in the holes for an 8-sided segment (the holes for 5, 6, 7 & 8 are relatively close to each other, the results would be the same). With a 6" scale set over the pins (as was said, the face of the Incra gauge is short so a wooden face would be recommended), I set the Incra to the pins and then wiggled it to check the fit - it was noticeably loose in the slot of the Miter Set. Turning the assembly on it's side, it was obvious that the rear adjustment button (?) in the Incra was not engaged in the slot. A closer check shows that the distance between the two rear buttons on the Incra is about the same as the length of the Miter Set - this would explain why the Incra reportedly gives inconsistent results. If you had a spare hand, you could push the Incra to the right (the black buttons are the non-adjustable ones, right?) and then push the head against the pins and tighten down.

So I guess it's on to Plan "B". I ordered the ball plungers shown in the last two photos - bought #8's now wondering if I should have gone with the #10's, but I can always drill out the smaller holes and retap if it becomes a problem - and will tap the bar on my OEM Delta gauge, making sure that I'll always have at least two plungers in contact. May take me a while to get around to this with everything that's going on.
Thank you for your comments on the Incra... etc...

Do you think it would be worth it to try to attach/strap on an extension to the Segment jig extending the Segment slot?

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