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What we have all suspected for a long time...............



Where does that donation money go??
I thought it was always "Rob the rich to give it to the Poor"
Now: Rob the Poor to enrich the Rich.
Donating - Interesting, ever wonder where that donation money goes?


Keep these facts in mind when "donating". As you open your pockets for yet another natural disaster, keep the following facts in mind; we have listed them from the highest (worse paid offender) to the lowest (least paid offender).

The worst offender was yet again for the 11th year in a row is, UNICEF - CEO, receives $1,200,000 per year, (plus use of a Rolls Royce for his exclusive use where ever he goes, and an expense account that is rumoured to be well over $150,000.) Only pennies from the actual donations goes to the UNICEF cause (less than $0.14 per dollar of income)...


The second worst offender this year is Marsha J. Evans, President and CEO Of the American Red Cross.... For her salary for the year ending in 2009 was $651,957 plus expenses. Enjoys 6 weeks - fully paid holidays including all related expenses during the holiday trip for her and her husband and kids. Including 100% fully paid health & dental plan for her and her family, for life. This means out of every dollar they bring in, about $0.39 goes to related charity causes.



The third worst offender was again for the 7th time was, Brian Gallagher, President of the United Way receives a $375,000 base salary (U.. S. Funds), plus so many numerous expense benefits it's hard to keep track as to what it is all worth, including a fully paid lifetime membership for 2 golf courses (1 in Canada, and 1 in the U. S. A.), 2 luxury vehicles, a yacht club membership,
3 major company gold credit cards for his personal expenses... And so on. This equates to about $0.51 per dollar of income goes to charity causes.


Fourth worst offender who was also again in the fourth spot, for every year since this information has been made available from the start 1998 is amazingly yet again, World Vision President (Canada) receives $300,000 base salary, (plus supplied - a home valued in the $700,000 - $800,000 dollar value range, completely furnished, completely paid all housing expenses, including taxes, water/sewer, telephone/fax, HD/high speed cable, weekly maid service and pool/yard maintenance, fully paid private schooling for his children, upscale automobile and an $55,000 personal expense account for clothing/food, with a $125,000 business expense account).
Get this, because it is a "religious based" charity, it pays, little to no taxes, can receive government assistance and does not have to declare were the money goes. Only about $0.52 of earned income per dollar is available for charity causes.

Of the sixty some odd "charities" we looked at, the lowest paid (President/CEO/Commissioner) was heading up a charity group in Canada . We found, believe it or not, it was......

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I think you might be surprised....

It is, none other than....

The Salvation Army's Commissioner Todd Bassett receives a salary of only $13,000 per year (plus housing) for managing this $2 Billion dollar organization. Which means about $0.93 per dollar earned, is readily available and goes back out to local charity causes... Truly amazing .... And well done "Sally Anne"
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No further comment is necessary..."Think Twice" before you give to your charity of choice as to which one really does the best for the most - or the least for the most, for that matter. Remember charity starts at home. Look after the people of this country.
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https://www.charitynavigator.org/

This is what I use to take a peek at how effective charities are in the States. Depending on the size of the charity and what they do I look for 80% or higher. Local charities usually don't have as high of percentages as the 'national' ones, but I like knowing that the money stays local.
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Thanks Harry, I have told people of this for years and have gotten into several arguments over it. This is only the tip of the iceberg. There are charitable foundations that rich people have that their express goal is to avoid taxes,and give employment to their families, and donate pennies to their so called causes.
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We tend to give to Salvation Army. They've always transferred almost ever dollar to people in need. There are a few other religious based charities that do even better, but they're hard to find.
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Yesterday I had some kids come to my house for donations . They do this yearly , and it's for there school band to go to Silverwood park in the states .
I gave them $10 , as I don't mind helping the local kids .

I used to help out my neighbors grand kids with there trips , and I used to go above and beyond , but you don't get so much as a thank you , so that's stopped
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Fake news. I do agree with the OP's meaning behind the post for sure, but much of it has been proven inaccurate years ago.

Salvation Army my give the most %, but tony Bassett never was paid only 13,000.00. And this cut and paste must be over 10 years old.

The facts are W. Todd Bassett stepped down as National Commander of The Salvation Army in April 2006; the current National Commander of the Salvation Army (since 2010) is William A. Roberts. The Salvation Army is not required to file a Form 990 with the IRS because it is primarily a religious organization, but according to the Better Business Bureau (BBB), Roberts’ last reported total annual compensation was $126,920, much higher than the $13,000 reported above. Forbes rates this organization’s efficiency at 82%, a fair bit lower than the 93% figure claimed in the e-mail.

Tony worked with his wife as a team and together that made over 100K, now that's not a lot of money compared to others, but 13K is just not right.(This I found from an interview with Tony himself)

I can go down the line and dispute the claims on every comment, I dont have time, do it for yourself and you will see that most of these guys are paid what they are worth. Their pay really is irrelevant to the % given as its the charities structure that is the issue, not one salary.

The only thing the post has right is the rough percentage given and what charity give most compared to what they receive.

Here is the actual most current real information and even this off snopes is a couple years old, I don't have time to google each, but it's still more accurate than the first post. It seems like every 3 years this comes back to life.

FROM SNOPES CONDENSED bur verifiable from independent sources if you want to take the time:
  • UNICEF: The e-mail is not specific about which executive is being referred to here, as UNICEF (the United Nations Children’s Fund) is a global organization with offices in 190 countries. We’re assuming the reference is to the President and CEO of the United States Fund for UNICEF, Caryl M. Stern, whose last reported total yearly compensation was $472,891, not $1,200,000. Both Charity Navigator and Forbes rate this organization’s efficiency at 91%, far greater than the 14% claimed in the e-mail cited above. In response to the claim that UNICEF’s CEO receives “a Royal Royce for his exclusive use where ever he goes,” UNICEF told us that “There is no Rolls Royce or company car provided for any staff member at UNICEF or the U.S. Fund, including the President and CEO of the U.S. Fund or UNICEF’s Executive Director.
  • American Red Cross: The information presented above is outdated (as of October 2010), as Marsha J. Evans resigned her position as CEO of the American Red Cross in 2005. The current President and CEO of the American Red Cross (since 2008) is Gail J. McGovern, whose total yearly compensation for 2010 was about $1,037,000 (considerably higher than the $651,957 figure mentioned above) and for 2011 was about $561,000. Charity Navigator and Forbes both rate this organization’s efficiency at 92%, much higher than the 39% figure claimed in the e-mail.
  • United Way: The United Way is another charitable organization that operates on both global and local levels. We’re assuming the e-mail references the President and CEO of United Way Worldwide, Brian A. Gallagher, whose last reported total yearly compensation was $717,076 (including a base salary of $415,613, which is a bit higher than the $375,000 figure reported above). Charity Navigator rates this organization’s efficiency at 89%, while Forbes rates it at 85%, both much higher than the 51% efficiency claimed in the e-mail.
  • World Vision: World Vision is yet another charitable organization with global reach, but the message quoted above specifically references World Vision Canada. That organization provided us with the following information:
    Dave Toycen [President and CEO of World Vision Canada] salary is $184,000 which is a matter of public record. As per our Board’s compensation policy, Dave and all of our top executives earn substantially less than executives who run comparable organizations. This policy is overseen by our Board’s Executive Committee and is regularly assessed by an independent external consultant. We disclose executive compensation as required to the Canada Revenue Agency.
    Dave does not live in a $700,000-$800,000 home, and none of his housing costs are paid for by World Vision. He has lived in the same house outside of Toronto for more than 20 years. He travels economy class and does not use the most cutting edge technology.
    Accountability in the use of funds and transparency to our donors are among our core values and they are taken seriously at World Vision. As evidence of this:
    The facts about our executive compensation, including the President’s renumeration, are published openly on our website;
    – Our annual report and independently audited financial statements are also available for review.
    World Vision Canada’s (self-reported) efficiency is 81%, much higher than the 52% figure claimed above.
  • Salvation Army: The information presented above is outdated, as W. Todd Bassett stepped down as National Commander of The Salvation Army in April 2006; the current National Commander of the Salvation Army (since 2010) is William A. Roberts. The Salvation Army is not required to file a Form 990 with the IRS because it is primarily a religious organization, but according to the Better Business Bureau (BBB), Roberts’ last reported total annual compensation was $126,920, much higher than the $13,000 reported above. Forbes rates this organization’s efficiency at 82%, a fair bit lower than the 93% figure claimed in the e-mail.
  • Goodwill: Goodwill Industries International is not a business that takes in donated items and resells them for a profit. It is a not-for-profit organization that provides job training, employment placement services and other community-based programs for people who have disabilities, lack education or job experience, or face employment challenges. Goodwill raises money for their programs through a chain of thrift stores which also operate as non-profits.The CEO of Goodwill Industries International is not Mark Curran, nor does he make $2.3 million a year. The current President and CEO of Goodwill is Jim Gibbons, who in 2011 received a total reported compensation of $725,000.
  • March of Dimes: Charity Navigator rates the March of Dimes‘ efficiency at 64.6%, a fair bit lower than most of the charities mentioned here, but much higher than the 10% figure claimed in the e-mail example quoted above.
  • St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital: Charity Navigator rates the efficiency of St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital at 70.3%, considerably lower than the 100% figure claimed of it above.
  • Ronald McDonald Houses: Ronald McDonald House charities operate at local levels in dozens of different metropolitan areas in the U.S. with varying levels of efficiency. Charity Navigator rates the efficiency of the parent organization at 89.5%.
  • Lions Club International: Charity Navigator rates the efficiency of the Lions Clubs International Foundation at 83.9%.
And before someone adds this I'll stop it before it starts.
A 2011 addendum to the original message presented the following information:
The American Legion National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
The Veterans of Foreign Wars National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
The Disabled American Veterans National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
The Military Order of Purple Hearts National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
The Vietnam Veterans Association National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
The Wounded Warriors National Commander receives a $0.00 zero salary.
These organizations with no salaries have donations going to help Veterans and their families and youth.
According to the most recent available Form 990 filings, all of these statements are false and/or misleading (in large part because the National Commanders are not necessarily the top business executives of these organizations):
  • The two men who served as National Commander of the American Legion during the 2009 tax year (David Rehbein and Clarence Hill) received total aggregate compensation of $103,701. The American Legion’s National Adjutant (Daniel Wheeler), who is described as “the administrative head of the organization,” received $201,661 in total compensation.
  • The two men who served as the Veterans of Foreign Wars’ Commander-in-Chief during the 2009 tax year (Glen M. Gardner, Jr. and Thomas J. Tradewell, Sr.) received an aggregate total compensation of $329,868.
  • In the 2009 tax year, the National Adjutant of Disabled American Veterans (Arthur H. Wilson), who is described as “serving as the DAV’s chief executive officer,” received a total compensation of $328,252.
  • The Military Order of the Purple Heart (MOPH) is a separate entity from the Military Order of the Purple Heart Service Foundation (MOPHSF), although the former is largely dependent upon the latter to raise funds for its programs. For tax year 2009, the Executive Director of the MOPHSF (Gregory A. Bresser), who left that post in August 2009, received $142,986 in total compensation.
  • In tax year 2009, the President of Vietnam Veterans of America (the closest match to the “Vietnam Veterans Association” mentioned in the e-mail), John Rowan, received a total compensation of $69,874. (The highest paid executive was CFO/staff director Joseph Sternburg, who was paid $137,902.)
  • For the fiscal year ending September 2013, the Executive Director of the Wounded Warrior Project, Steven Nardizzi, received a total compensation of $375,000.
Unfortunately, the six veterans-related charitable organizations mentioned above don’t receive very high marks for efficiency (as determined by Charity Navigator, the BBB, or Form 990 information):
  • American Legion: 55%
  • Veterans of Foreign Wars: 84%
  • Disabled American Veterans: 77%
  • Military Order of Purple Heart Service Foundation: 35%
  • Vietnam Veterans of America: 25%
  • Wounded Warrior Project: 58%

I do agree with the OP's meaning behind the post for sure.

Be careful who you give cash too, me I give to family or friends or people in MY community. In most cases we are lucky if half what give goes into someones hands that needs it. Please realize even if a charity claimed and could prove 98% of what came in went out to help it doesn't mean the people in need actually benefited or received anything at all.

It could mean the charity used money to pay company to organize or help, diluting what actually goes to people in need. If we give 50K for blankets to the poor and the charity says we received 50 K for the blankets and 48 K went out , but 40K was used for the company, or trucks etc to get the blankets distributed what really went in the the hands of the neediest, not a whole lot.
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The sad part is , if they actually cured cancer , only the 1percenters would be able to afford it , and our donations are what found the cure .
Hypothetical, but wait and see how correct I am
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The Red Cross was selling bottle water in NYC at 911. FACT I was there. Uncle claimed they sold blankets to GI's during WW2. I wouldn't give them a dime. Salvation Army donated water in NYC. Local Red Cross provides limited help locally, but disappears when the TV coverage departs.
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Harry, this message has been floating around for years and if you go to FACTCHECK.COM you will see it is FALSE. It was put out by folks trying to get people to donate to certain charities and not to other. Again, it is FALSE. Malcolm / Kentucky USA
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Harry, this message has been floating around for years and if you go to FACTCHECK.Cxx you will see it is FALSE. It was put out by folks trying to get people to donate to certain charities and not to other. Again, it is FALSE. Malcolm / Kentucky USA
Might want to fact check that website link. Perhaps you meant the one ending in .org instead.

factcheck dot org

I'd post the URL but the forum software complains I don't have enough posts yet.
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