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For any politically correct num nums who want to get on my case for calling it a cigar store Indian, instead of a cigar store Native American, @##$%%^ you. I have known a number of Native Americans as you want them called (wonder how they feel about it), and all in all they were good people, just like most of the rest of us. Anyway, when I was a kid, and after, they were cigar store Indians then, later, and this one still is.

Back a number of years, when I was making small wooden figure banks, I made a cigar store Indian bank, and gave it to my older son. The figure was standing on a box, and in total was about 24" tall. Decided to 'upgrade' a bit, so drew this out. The figure, including war bonnet, is 48" tall. I figured on having it on a box at least 12" tall, big bank. But then my son said he would like two, not as banks, just as figures, to stand on his porch on each side of the door, as guardians or such. Got involved with making canes tho when I first needed a cane, and never got back to it. Got a 48" tall Statue of Liberty figure that is finished except for some detail work on one hand. On that one I mixed up a color wash that looks just like the patenia on copper that has been in the weather a long time.

I'm going to go ahead on my cigar store Indian, and finish it, likely not as a bank, but always possible some will be made. Awhile back I found out how to enlarge pictures, and retested that new skill with one of my Wizards. When from about a 10" tall Wizard on one sheet of paper, to about twice as large, on four sheets of paper. When I tried to enlarge the cigar store Indian, got a message saying my printer couldn't print it. And been gettng the same message ever since, with any thing I try to print. Been troubleshooting, trying instructions, and whatall, with negative results. So, now I can't print anything, so can't experiment getting the size of my printout close to the size of the one already glued to plywood. I figure once I figure out what size will work well, I will use that as the pattern for a new master, cutting it out when I get it sized. Somewhere along the line I will have to hand-paint the size pattern I will be using, then print out the designs in color, which will save many hours of hand-painting. I could color the figure with the computer, but it does not have all the colors, or shades, that I want, and I can custom mix all sorts of colors with acrylic latex.

Oh yes, I cropped both sides of the picture, and was about to start on finding out if I had searched out a good method of discarding the cropped sections. And I need to print, so I can check the results. And now my printer is bonkers. If it's not one thing, it's two others.

Here't the picture. All hand drawn. The fact was inspired by a picture from around 1910, of a member of one of the Northwest tribes - never learned which tribe. The war bonnet, clothes, and accessories, were from photos of actual people, cigar store Indians, and paintings - so they are not authentic to any specific tribe. All in all, I like the results.

Almost forgot. On this one, once I had the design worked out, I cut it up, took pictures, then printed out each separate section, and glued them to the plywood, making a complete pattern. And, of course, all those pictures are on another computer, that died. Took a LOT of time, and printing, to come up with pictures to make a usable pattern that way, do not care to go thru that drill again, unless it is my last choice. Moot point anyway, because my printer isn't printing.
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Pretty sure the 'war bonnet' thing was plains tribes, not Pacific Coast. Not claiming I know for sure, but any West Coast Native regalia (I've seen) didn't include that type of headdress.
Clothing, Masks and Weaving of the First Nations of the Pacific Northwest

On the other hand...
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Nah, just the face is from a Northwest native, it was the only photo I could find that I liked. Even the war bonnet was is from at least 3 versions, possibly more. I get ideas from various sources, but don't copy anything in whole. Hmm, I think I have seen that war bonnet before.

Or, maybe thinking of a different one.
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That needs to be moved to 'What Music are You Listening to' !
Yowza!!
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That needs to be moved to 'What Music are You Listening to' !
Yowza!!
What? There was music? I'll have to watch it again then.
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Or just click on the title at the top of the link you posted, Theo.
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Yep, definitely music. Would have enjoyed it a lot more if I could get my printer printing again. Tried about everything HP support has, and according to them it should be working fine. It ain't. And right now I'm at a dead standstill until I get some printing done. They claimed no software, so loaded software. Zip. Gonna have to listen to that music again, to boost my spirits. Bah. Humbug.

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My printer is now working again. In my search, I found I can get advised of ink levels. And just found out that I had a wrong black ink cartridge in it. I had put it just before this problem came up. I order ink on-line, so can only believe that I was sent a wrong cartridge. I pulled the cartridge, and replaced it, and that was all it took. After several hours of torment and frustration. Now I'm too tired to listen to the music again, or to continue right now with my experimenting in getting rid of the cropped portions. But, there is always tomorrow. Right now a cuppa hot tea, watching Forged In Fire reruns, and maybe a chicken salad.

I am once again a pleased person in a canvas dwelling.
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That was a very interesting war dance Dan. That Indian maiden definitely knows how to shake those tail feathers!

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Theo, I saw one in Oakville, Ontario a while back...

I'll always remember W.C. Fields getting scared by one, I believe it was in 'Mississippi' with Bing Crosby.
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