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I use a set of brass bars from Rockler or a standard steel ruler. The problem with the bars is as noted earlier, they are too short.

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I have a set of key stock, but usually find myself using a steel ruler as it's handier.
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I agree, Jim, the accuracy of commercial setup blocks is indeed superior to anything shop-made. I've been tempted by the Woodpecker set, but I don't use setup blocks often enough to justify spending the money. I'm curious about which shop operations you use them for most often, and if you make test cuts after using them to set up an operation. I can see how the wide range of sizes could be a time saver.
My key way stock and 123 blocks are most often used to set up rip cuts on the TS. The key way stock is great for setting router depths and for RT fence settings and bit height. They are also handy for setting dado blade depth of cut.
My use of tapes and rulers for machine set ups is less than minimal.

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This is the set of Brass setup bars that I bought from America but I've long since forgotten what they cost and which company they came from.
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Until a few years ago I used twist drills then one day I felt in a spending mood and was about to place an order in America so decided to include a set of set-up blocks and the only procedure that I use them for is setting up the box joint jig.

Harry I agree If I had a set I'm not sure what I would use them for. I guess a box joint might be one of them or maybe the only thing or maybe paper weights. To me close enough is when it fits just right, Since I'm not doing machine work and since wood moves and saw blades flex and the temperature changes and, and ,and ... a few tweaks with the blade or fence will get me where I need to be after measuring with a tape measure.
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Steve, I have the Veritas setup gauges and very seldom use them. I have had these Veritas gauges for may 10 years or so. Here is what I use most.

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I actually got of set of these with a DVD I bought on WoodWorkers Guild of America. I use them a lot for setting up the table saw blade height and bit height on the router table. I bought, and here come the groans, a setup set from Woodpeckers which is really nice but way more trouble to use which translates to way less often used. They do work and they are accurate but they take more time to setup and use.
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I have a set I bought from Oak Park, the original Router Forum guys... use them all the time to set bit height and cut width. Very useful.

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Harry I agree If I had a set I'm not sure what I would use them for. I guess a box joint might be one of them or maybe the only thing or maybe paper weights. To me close enough is when it fits just right, Since I'm not doing machine work and since wood moves and saw blades flex and the temperature changes and, and ,and ... a few tweaks with the blade or fence will get me where I need to be after measuring with a tape measure.
I wish that I had made that post, it's spot on. One thing that I don't understand is what uses are there that 2" isn't long enough.

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I have a set I bought from Oak Park, the original Router Forum guys... use them all the time to set bit height and cut width. Very useful.
Mine may well be from Oak Park, Mike did all the buying for me, including a 1/4" spacer jig to keep my 3/8" one that I won in a forum competition company Brian.

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I have two Woodpecker items. One is the router mounting plate, which I bought a couple of years ago for my Triton. It is extra thick, but I really popped for it because of the twist-lock, bayonet insert setup. The other WP tool was their table saw setup gauge (see pix), which is remarkably accurate and frankly, is a beautiful tool that I enjoy looking at and using. Yes, I could get the same result with other methods and tools, including shop made, but sometimes, you just want something. I have a Veritas router plane that is also both functional and beautiful.

I'm not sure I'd get much use out of 123 blocks, but I do appreciate the utility of my set of brass setup bars (Rockler I think) that I use most often for router setup and for cutting precise spline stock.. And, I too wish they were longer.
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