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Couple of hours ago had Malwarebytes. Now I don't. Computer was locking up, so restarted it to see if that would help. It did, but now can't find Malwarebytes anywhere on it. Probably not searching in the wrong places, but it did tell me there was no link when I tried looking. I've been meaning to replace it for awhile not, just not finding anything suitable. Finally found one that seemed good, but wasn't able to connect to ask a couple of questions about a couple of things I wasn't sure about. Looks like I've got to speed up my search. Bah. Humbug.

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That doesn't sound good - is it possible a virus has removed it?
I personally use AVG free or Avast, and as long as ignore their popup nags to try and sell me their paid-for product they work fine. I'm in I.T. at a high level, have always used AVG free and don't have any issues.

Malwarebytes do have a free option I think, but I tend to only use that product when I know I'm performing a cleanup on someon's computer.

Be a little cautious: there are some supposed antivirus products out there that are actually a scam and download more malware. Go for one of the "more well known" antivirus apps and you should be okay.

Hope that helps a little.

I suspect you should get something on there pretty fast and scan your computer, just in case.
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A computer guy recommended Kaspersky. Had it for fours years and worth the $$$. JOAT, sounds like a case of gremlins in the computer.

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Are you using Windows? If so did you look in the control panel?
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Using McAfee LiveSafe and also Malwarebytes Premium for a number of years and they have keep things running safe and sound. I figure that for the few bucks a year it certainly is cheap peace of mind. IMHO
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It does sound like your computer is "under the influence". Download a program called Everything, it's the best search engine I've found and is free. https://www.voidtools.com/ I've used a number of AV programs over the years and was big fan of Norton until Norton was sold. It became way too aggressive and controlling causing more problems than not. If all you run is mainstream programs it will likely be fine but otherwise...Then I started using Panda until they didn't have a 64 bit version and switched to ESET which I have used for years. I have and use Malwarebytes as well as I have a lifetime license for 4 of my systems. I bought in early on and was rewarded for that when they went fully commercial. Between ESET and Malwarebytes I've had no issues. That said it's largely up to us and our habits as to how exposed we are. Good habits to get into are like not opening any attachments you're not expecting or from someone you don't know and/or have very suspicious names. If you get an attachment your AV software should be able to scan it prior to opening if you right mouse click on it and choose scan. There are a ton of scams posted every day like paying a past due bill and a link to make the payment online. If you hover over the provided URL (link) it will generally show you who it's from. Even then I don't open it as you can always log into your account for that service or whatever and see if you owe anything or were sent a notice. I mean this is low hanging fruit and very popular. If you fall for it remember they now have your payment info as well as personal info such as name /address/CC #.

But that's diving deep to start. Try going to an online scan service like ESET/Norton/Kaspersky to do an online scan. If you can't make that online connection to any of those you are probably infected with malicious software and it's blocking you. That could be loading prior to boot up and those are called root bots.
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Theo look in windows explorer. Click on your C drive and look in the folder Program Files Or Program Files (x86) and look down the list of folders for the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware folder. Click on that folder and look for the file mbam . It has the Malwarebytes icon next to it. If you click on it it will start the program. You can right click on it to select pin it to the start menu or simply pull it down to the task bar to pin it there for easy access.
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It is/was Malwarebytes Premium. Seem to work fine. The real problems started awhile back when I tried Avast. Lots of hoopla, etc. Instead of speeding my computer up, it slowed it down dramatically. Started getting lots of problems that had been resolved long before. Started getting web pages slowing me down messages again, few and far between before. Started getting script running, and slowing me down, messages, a lot of them - and about 35+ percent of those were from Avast. Started getting pop up ads again, loads more of them than ever, on ever page. Cancelled Avast, and asked for a refund. They refused a refund, saying I was using a 30 day trial. Only after I forwarded them a copy of my receipt for payment did they refund my payment. Still getting web page slowing me down messages, but not daily anymore. And the computer locks up for minutes at a time now, didn't do that before Avast, but started mostly when Avast was installed.

You guys are making major errors. You assume I know what you are talking about. Not a clue where Windows Explorer is. Did a search, got instructions on where to find it, didn't work, tried several ways, none worked. Think I used to be able to find the start menu, not now. This thing was used, but reconditioned, when I got it, and always a bit strange. Would shift things around at time, the picture on the long in page gets changed about every 4th or 5th it boots up from scratch, sometimes oftener.

I was a lead computer operator for most of 9 years. Those big mainframes are nowhere as confusing as these PCs.

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There's no way I'd have a computer from someone else that hadn't been wiped and the operating system re-installed. It's a pain but well worth it and gets rid of tons of junk that is probably not even used these days on the system as is now. The 1st major issue would likely be the Registry which by now has probably bloomed way out of proportion. And don't think of using a Registry cleaner as they are just as likely to do more harm than good. If you want the speed back and a clean machine going the route of a clean Windows install is the way to go. Takes some time, you need the license information, and you'll likely not reinstall all your programs as a mess of them get installed, used a few times, and forgotten. Backup your documents, pictures, music, and videos which you should be doing anyway on a separate portable hard drive. I can't tell you how many people would come into the computer repair shop I used to work at after retiring that were scared to death because all their baby pictures, wedding pictures..you get the point, are on that failed drive. Sometimes we could recover some, sometimes all, but enough times none at all and their only option was to send the drive off for data recovery which is both very expensive and not guaranteed. That's work that is done at the platter level in a clean room. Not sure what, if anything, can be done with SSDs (solid state drives). Just saying. You want that system back to normal either see if you can do a reinstall yourself or get a quote from a repair shop.
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As some of you know, I have a small computer repair business and spend a lot of time chasing down viruses, Trojan Horses and malware. Every piece of software listed above with the exception of Everything (never of it) would not find it's way on my computers. With free software you get exactly what you pay for. Free Avast, Avg and Malwarebytes do nothing but give a false sense of security. Just because your free software scans and does not find anything wrong with your computer does not mean there isn't some kind item item out there that is infecting your computer. I have seen Macafee and Norton bring perfectly operating computer down to it's knees and hardly run at all because it thinks there is something wrong with the computer when actually nothing exists. There is a reason why the Federal Government stopped using Kaspersky.

The software I use is Trend Micro, I have been using it for 12 years without a problem. But I will not tell you to buy it. What you use for Antivirus/Trojan Horse/Malware is up to you. I have people use free Avast or AVG because they cannot afford anything else and I go repair their computers and wish them the best and if later on down the road they have more problems, I fix the computer again and leave it be.

I will tell you piece of software to purchase and that would be Windows Manager 7, 8.1, or 10. This software is sold by a company call Yamacsoft. The software is one of the best programs for getting rid of Junk Files, Duplicate Files, an extremely good registry cleaner and registry defrager it has several other features but I do not use these regularly. Thus is the first program that I run on any computer that I get for repair service and a good 70 percent of the time, this is all I need to run on a computer along with disk cleaner and disk defrag, to bring it back up and functioning 100%.

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