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Default Someone tell me again why this Makita is so great???

*WARNING* I'm TICKED!!! This is a rant... I'm warning everyone ahead of time. If you have answers, I'll take them, and the router with thank you, because it's on it's way to the wood chipper! (What's left of it after I run it over with my 4x4, that is)

Okay My router purchasing privileges are herby REVOLKED!!!!!! I'm so mad right now, I'm about to take a sledge to this router that I thought was gonna be the (forgive my language) "Cat's @$$". OMG WAS I WRONG! I want to like this machine! It feels amazing when cutting my patterns with it! But this thing and it's so-called lock on the plunge JUST DESTROYED AN HOURS WORTH OF WORK IN ONE FELL SWOOP BECAUSE THE LOCK LET GO, GOUGING THE EDGE TO WHERE IT'S NOW IRREPARABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

First, I swear Makita made this thing for a left-handed person. Everything is for a lefty. I wouldn't complain, both my parents were lefty's. I know how to adapt.
But when I try and use the wrench to loosen the nut, I've almost hit myself in the face trying to get the thing loosened! The wrench won't grip right, and it takes multiple tries just to get it latched on to turn the nut. When it DOES finally loosen, I have to tap on the bit stem, or it's not coming out of the machine.

The power button.... meant, again, for a left-handed person. But I can get around that... takes time to get used to a new machine. What I CAN'T deal with, is the fact that to use the lock on the plunge, you have to get it where you want it and use TWO HANDS to get it to tighten hard enough to lock in the position! (That, too, is meant for the left-handed person.) Wouldn't be a big deal, except that with this machine, it stays mobile, and the lever works the exact opposite of the DeWalt. I thought this would be no big deal; use the thumb, press down on the lever, and it will lock in place... Uhhhh NO! In order for me to get that lock to work, it takes both hands to get it to add enough pressure to keep it in place.

DESTROYED my sign in one fell cut!!!! I'm so mad, my eyes hurt!!!!

Nick, my friend... now what do I do? Is there something I'm missing?? I swear I'm about to run this thing over with my 4x4 and take what's left and through it through a chipper!!!!!!!!


I know... "Breathe, Barb, Breathe....." But I'll post what it did to my sign.... You wouldn't be happy, either (I don't think).

Thank you for reading my rant, and like I said... I'll take any answers you may have. With this rant, I at least finally feel like I can go out to the she without setting something on fire, or destroying that whole shop.

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Some of the lock levers are splined in such a way that you take the screw out that holds the lever and rotate it to a better position. Would that help or you just can't tighten it enough the way it is? If it's a plunge have you had the base off the columns? BTW, which model is it?

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I'd have to go and check but I'm pretty sure Bosch's column locks are locked by default...I think you have to apply pressure to allow them to plunge. Maybe one of our 1617 owners can confirm that?
I'd go and check my own except that I can't get into the shop easily right now...electric opener issues and the repair guy won't get here till tomorrow.
(The repair co. wanted to know if I could get in through the side door... rothflmao!! "Umm, no." )
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YEOWCH...soooooo sorry you're having such a time with the Makita...like Cherryville asked, what model do you have...it will help a lot. See comments inserted in your text below. Can't help you with all the probs though...

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*WARNING* I'm TICKED!!! This is a rant... I'm warning everyone ahead of time. If you have answers, I'll take them, and the router with thank you, because it's on it's way to the wood chipper! (What's left of it after I run it over with my 4x4, that is)

Make sure you put the 4x4 in granny low so you go over it nice and slow...

Okay My router purchasing privileges are herby REVOLKED!!!!!! I'm so mad right now, I'm about to take a sledge to this router that I thought was gonna be the (forgive my language) "Cat's @$$". OMG WAS I WRONG! I want to like this machine! It feels amazing when cutting my patterns with it! But this thing and it's so-called lock on the plunge JUST DESTROYED AN HOURS WORTH OF WORK IN ONE FELL SWOOP BECAUSE THE LOCK LET GO, GOUGING THE EDGE TO WHERE IT'S NOW IRREPARABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

First, I swear Makita made this thing for a left-handed person. Everything is for a lefty. I wouldn't complain, both my parents were lefty's. I know how to adapt.

Yes...it will take a bit of adapting as it will be different than the router you were using.

But when I try and use the wrench to loosen the nut, I've almost hit myself in the face trying to get the thing loosened! The wrench won't grip right, and it takes multiple tries just to get it latched on to turn the nut.

What do you mean by this...? Is the wrench a little tight or do you have to constantly turn it over because of the little room to get it in...?

When it DOES finally loosen, I have to tap on the bit stem, or it's not coming out of the machine.

This might occur when the bit is pushed in all the way down when you insert it. Is it possible you're doing this...? Make sure you put the bit all the way in and then just back it out about 1/16 - 1/8". Generally, collets will suck the bit down some more but if it was already all the way down it will jam when you loosen it to remove the bit. This may or may not be the case but you could check.

The power button.... meant, again, for a left-handed person. But I can get around that... takes time to get used to a new machine. What I CAN'T deal with, is the fact that to use the lock on the plunge, you have to get it where you want it and use TWO HANDS to get it to tighten hard enough to lock in the position! (That, too, is meant for the left-handed person.) Wouldn't be a big deal, except that with this machine, it stays mobile, and the lever works the exact opposite of the DeWalt. I thought this would be no big deal; use the thumb, press down on the lever, and it will lock in place... Uhhhh NO! In order for me to get that lock to work, it takes both hands to get it to add enough pressure to keep it in place.

You might need to check the lever as Cherryville suggested. Some routers allow you to take the lever off, turn it slightly in the opposite direction that you would lock it, put it back on and then the lever will allow you some additional holding power. Again, let us know the model and can get you more specific info on this...

DESTROYED my sign in one fell cut!!!! I'm so mad, my eyes hurt!!!!

Nick, my friend... now what do I do? Is there something I'm missing?? I swear I'm about to run this thing over with my 4x4 and take what's left and through it through a chipper!!!!!!!!


I know... "Breathe, Barb, Breathe....." But I'll post what it did to my sign.... You wouldn't be happy, either (I don't think).

You are very passionate about your signs and I can only imagine what you might be feeling. I would suggest "playing" with the router on some junk wood to get used to the different feel. Doing this might bring out some other issues that you will find on junk wood instead of project wood.

Thank you for reading my rant, and like I said... I'll take any answers you may have. With this rant, I at least finally feel like I can go out to the she without setting something on fire, or destroying that whole shop.
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I'd go and check my own except that I can't get into the shop easily right now...electric opener issues and the repair guy won't get here till tomorrow.
(The repair co. wanted to know if I could get in through the side door... rothflmao!! "Umm, no." )
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Strong letter to follow. I put a small grommet into the collet to keep the bit from bottoming. But that's in a half inch collet. I think you'd have to find something a little smaller if it only has a 1/4, perhaps a space ball?

Re: Repositioning the lock lever. I am amazed how designers manage to hide screws that hold pieces like this in place. Sometimes they glue a cover over them that you can pry up. I'd definitely try that. Ever try to open a laptop's case?
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Okay:

(Ken is looking this up... it's the one I posted the pics of last month, maybe? He says it's a RT0701C) I got the big kit.

Chuck: I can't get it tight enough to stay where I put it. It should be a simple thumb movement, and it locks, but it doesn't. Needless to say, having to use both hands to get the lock to work, makes it difficult to set. At the moment, I've given up on using the lock, and I'm trying to teach myself how to use the three preset screws so it won't go deeper than I need it. I've managed to get it to at least do the scalloped edges, and round over, but no more chamfering for the time being.

Dan: This one works the exact opposite. With the DeWalt, you hold the lever to move plunge the router up and down, and when you let it go, it's locked. This one, it moves freely up and down (mostly down) unless you flip the lever on the back, that does NOT like to move to begin with, and to get it to tighten enough to stay is difficult, to say the least.

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I was about to roll back and forth till the dang thing was flat! Loosening the nut: I press the lock button. I get the larger of the two wrenches (the one meant for the nut). It takes multiple tries just to get the wrench to fit over the nut. Like it won't line up, or fit properly. When it finally DOES fit, I continue to hold the button and pull the wrench towards me to loosen it.... it flies off, trying to take off my knuckles, along with all the layers of skin on them, and my hand, wrench and all goes flying towards me. Ken watched the h*ll I went through trying to get this to loosen. I finally get it to fit, and the nut loosens, to have the bit stuck in there, unwilling to move. As for the question if I've inserted the bit to the bottom, no, I haven't. As a matter of fact, I was taught that if I did feel the bit "hit bottom" to pull the bit back out about 1/4" (maybe). But none of my bits have even been long enough to go all the way in. I have to tap the bit on the shank to get it to come out. (Something else Ken watched me endure tonight.)

As for playing, like I said, I'm trying to teach myself how I can at least get it to no go too deep, using those three different screws that you can use as a stop. I've gotten myself to where I can at least use it for edges, but it's not happening, using it for my designs unless I can get the lock to work correctly.

On a more pleasant note, I was able to cut five or six signs tonight. Only one got the paint (Ken will paint them tomorrow, so you can see the cuts a bit better,) but also, here is what that idiotic stupid router did to my sign.... Fortunately, venting in here calmed me enough to save the router.
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Barb - if you're struggling with using the depth stops on the turret, watch this video from Norm Abram. It's a long video but the pertinent portion for you is from 6:49 to 8:00 minutes.


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Barb,

Sorry to hear of your problem.

I only have one older 1/4" collet Makita model 3621 plunge router that was given to me, and I don't use it because it only takes 1/4" bits and the plunge lock lever works opposite of my other routers. It free plunges and you have to press the lock lever to lock it at a desired position. This locking lever is spring loaded to release and it wants to release on you if you haven't locked it tight enough. My other routers all need the lock lever pressed in order to release and change the plunge height, so this Makita is backwards from the rest of my plunge routers. The switch on this Makita router is in one of the handles and must be squeezed to keep the router running and has no lock button to keep it on. Again, not at all like my other plunge routers

If this 3621 is your model of Makita router, and you can somehow make peace with it after this, I'll gladly send you another one that you can use as a spare or for parts. I think I've only used the one that I have a couple of times in the last 15 years or so because of these same problems.

My favorite router right now is my DeWalt DWP611 with both the fixed and plunge base, and the optional vacuum attachments for both of the bases. Unless I need more power, this little router is perfect for all my sign making and light work. It's so light and well balanced that it's a pleasure to use and it has an LED light to light the cutting area too. It only takes 1/4" bits, so I need to move up to one of my three DW618's if I need to do heavier cutting, or if I don't have the needed bit in a 1/4" shank size. It has a bit lock button and one wrench, so removing and replacing the bit is easy. I usually remove the motor from the base when doing this because it's easier this way. If you decide to replace your Makita, I suggest that you take a close look at the DeWalt DWP611. For what I've seen of your work, I think it will be a perfect choice.

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Ooo, not good. I was going to tell you not to run over it, might get a flat. I consider a hammer more appropriate. But I see you changed your mind. If you can get a refund on it, that is what I would do, and get something else. Good luck whichever way.

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