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MEMORIALOur age group may be the last to understand the sacrifices that were made so that we could live in freedom. Notice in the opening shot of the plane landing on the carrier deck the gunner's position is all shot to hell while the pilot's cockpit ahead of it is undamaged.
Later on notice the corpsman taking a fingerprint of the deceased gunner, before the film continues, then shows the chaplain saying final prayers, followed by taps, then the sailors push the aircraft and this patriotic airman over the side and watch it sink into the sea.

This is what 18 year old "kids" were doing in 1944.

This 2 minute video is pretty moving. Worth your while. "What actually made this country great is ordinary guys like this doing extraordinary things."
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This is what 18 year old "kids" were doing in 1944.

...and in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and other places...


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My dad’s youngest brother had the job of pulling the dead gunners on the bombers out of the planes. I had to learn about it from my dad or one of the other two uncles. What he had seen bothered him so badly he couldn’t talk about it.

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My father was with the 13th Air Force in the PTO. He told of one time a bomber got hit in the tail with flack. They hosed the tailgunner out in the grass along the runway. I am finishing a book about Gregory Boyington, the subject of the TV series, Baa, Baa, Black Sheep. I wonder how many 18 year olds would survive just the jungle- heat, humidity, bugs, disease, etc. My father had jungle rot for years. Doctors couldn't treat it. Finally, a doctor in Queens, NY, cured it. Told dad to do exactly what he says. Coat it with an ointment, wrap your lower leg with Saran wrap to keep air out. It worked.
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Very moving, I pray the we never go through things like this again

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God Bless the bravest from the GREATEST GENERATION. We are losing them at a very fast pace. The saddest thing you can imagine is that these horrible wars are not even discussed in todays high schools. If you have the opportunity,like the song says, teach your children well
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Reference post #5- book title is Black Sheep One by Bruce Gamble.

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I am glad that drones, smart bombs and Tomahawk missles are replacing pilots and gunners these days. Less risk for humans, greater mayhem for enemies. Many drones are flown by remote control from rooms in U.S. bases. And the President has lifted the political rules of engagement so we can actually kill enemy troops. If you get a chance, watch one of the videos shot in infrared of drones and helicopters shooting Taliban and terrorists on the ground.

There's a movie scene where a group of Taliban stop some Americans on a road and the driver scares them into thinking the car is being tracked by a drone. The terrorists let the car leave unmollested. I think it would be psychologically exhausting to know a missile or cannon shell could hit you without warning, no matter where you hide. Their infrared signature always gives them away unless they hide in caves. No fires, no warmth. Heat from a fire in a cave brings in smart bombs and they get buried or worse.

None of that lessens the importance and value of the sacrifices of the past, but I am happy that most soldiers are much safer now than in the past. We should also remember how many "gold star" families there were during past wars.

Thanks for posting the video. You Aussies were next in line for the Japanese during WWII.
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Although my grandfather was born in January 1900 , he some how ended up fighting in both World War 1 and 2 . Mom said in the later years he’d wake up screaming from the effects of the first World War, as he’d have to kill others in hand to hand combat in trenches to stay alive .
He thought nothing of the second World War , as it didn’t seem so personal.
Every time I hear a kids bored , I just wish they could get get a glimpse of what their elders went threw to fight for their freedom
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