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They’re building a new US plant in North Ft. Worth to build the Craftsman brand they acquired. I might have to start looking at buying Craftsman tools again.

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Chuck, don't get your hopes up. IMO, B&D was crap when it was made over here. Now, if Simpson were back in the game..different story. But, time will tell. I wish them the best.

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B&D was once a pretty decent tool. Then they figured out they could make cheap tools and sell more of them. Then they brought out B&D Professonal line to capture some of that higher end market again but I think they ruined that market with the reputation they built on the crap stuff. The pro line was once again decent quality. I think that might be how DW came about as it was disassociated from B&D and wasn’t tarnished by the crap stuff. The crap you could tell when you picked it up as it would be about 1/2 the weight of a good tool.

I had a chance recently to handle some of the new Craftsman line and they have the feel of a decent quality tool. I’m thinking they will be on par with DW and some of the two bear a resemblance.

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In 1967, I bought a 6 1/4" B&D Wormdrive saw to basically trim rafter tails after they were installed, from above. Just walk along the top plate and lean out and saw down. But it worked so well that I used it for all the framing tasks and it was still going til 2012.

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Have to admit I avoid B$D tools, yet I really like my 18v DeWalt tools. They work fine, and their little circ saw is a treat to use. Just bought a fresh set of high capacity 18v batteries. Their 20v adapter just doesn't fit right. Very hard to get if off the tool. But at least they didn't obsolete the 18v tools. A B+ for trying.
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I'll have to wait on the Craftsman tools to see how their warranty and parts replacement plays out. That is a few things that destroyed the name in the first place. Their lifetime tool warranty on hand tools took a nose dive when at one time you could take a hand tool in to a store for replacement and they did just that, no questions asked. then they started trying to pawn off used/refurbished tools in in place of new.

Another gripe, and the main reason I quit buying from them, was the availability of parts. After just a few years, you couldn't get replacement parts, even from an outside source. I bought several battery operated tools that were discontinued after one year and there were no parts or batteries for replacement.

The last tool I bought was a Craftsman DP. This machine has served me well, but I had to replace the quill spring and could not get parts. Ended up finding a close match from Grizzly that worked.
Frustrating to say the least. Maybe things will change with the new owners and support from their parent company.
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I have a B & D 1/2” single speed non reversing metal bodied drill that could be as old as I am and I use it to mix cement and mortar. Pretty hard to beat that.

One major difference between Sears and BD Stanley is that Sears didn’t make the tools and B D Stanley does. That should make parts more available, particularly if some of them interchange with DW which I think they might.

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My experience with B&D has been with their "consumer" line. So, my original post was likely somewhat uninformed.
If their Craftsman tools reflect DW quality, that would be wonderful. I guess we wait and see.

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I have a super old Black and Decker radial arm saw that still works great. It must be 50 years old. That's back when they built stuff to last. Now everything is designed to just make it past the warranty so they can sell you another one.
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My favorite circular saw is about 50 years old now and it's a Black & Decker Commercial Grade saw. I avoid the lower grade B&D, but also have a 1 hp fixed base Commercial Grade router that is almost as old as the circular saw. Neither have ever given me any trouble and they were used a lot. I renovated two houses and built many projects using them.

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