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As most of you know, I make canes, and design my own handles. Normally I just make a rough sketch, then make a finished design on 1/4" graph paper, the actual size I want it to be, glue that to plywood, rough cut it out, then final sand to the outside lines. From that I can rout out exact copies, then freehand any design I want.

But some of my designs are complex. I could still free hand them, but that would be very time consuming, and a PITA. So I want to print the finished design on invisible paper (get into that in a bit), then glue that to the cane handle. Problem was, I could not get the finished design to a size where it would fit the cane handle design. No matter what I tried, didn't work. I understand it would have been possible using PhotoShop. But don't got no PhotoShop, and don't intend to get it either. But somehow figured out, sizing depends on how far from the camera the item photographed is. This means I can take a picture of my design, print it out, and compare the size of it to my cane handle design. If it is not a close fit, then move the design closer for further from the camera, take a picture, print it, and compare it again. Repeat until it is close enough. Won't have to take more photos of that particular design, but need to notes on exactly how the printing was done, so you can print to the exact same size again, days, or weeks after. As I said, most I can just free hand in a minute or two, but designs like my grumpy turtle and fish, a nice lion head, about 3 elephant designs, and a few others, are just too complex to do that. So, it's on to printing on invisible paper.

Some years back I was wanting paper I could print a design on, glue to a cane handle, and have the paper literally become invisible. So, started experimenting. No good results. Then snagged some toilet paper from the bathroom of the local grocery - one ply, sturdy, no pattern imprinted. And it turned totally invisible when glued down, the colored picture I tested with came out as clear as a bell. This was when I was having problem sizing designs to my cane handles, so didn't pursue it at that time. But when I figured out how to size my pictures, it was back to the grocery store. And I found out that they had apparently change TP suppliers. The new stuff is much thinner, or at least a whole lot more delicate, has some sort of design imprinted, and all in all, did not work out too well. So, went searching. Seems that toilet paper, or white paper napkins, are all I have found that work. Both one ply, two ply works, but more complicated to use without tearing, so one ply it is. At least I have a use for the brands that didn't work. Have to tape the TP to a piece of copy paper, print the design, rough cut to fit the handle, then glue it down. This is the tricky part. Either pat the glue lightly with a finger to spread it, not always guaranteed, don't EVER try to move the paper, it will instantly tear, or get a really soft brush and lightly spread the glue with that. Doesn't look clear, but once the glue dries you have to look very, very, closely to be able to tell there is paper there. Still searching for a better paper, but for now this will do the deed. This will only be used with the more complex designs, Grumpy Turtle, Grumpy Fish, Lion, Elephants, and maybe a few other designs.

The pictures are rather lousy, but visible. The elephant is one I will use the invisible paper with. The rest of the designs are simple, and will be free-handed. Maybe another time I will post some of my weird designs.

Great, apparently it will not allow me to post pictures. I'll keep trying. Finally, had to load one at a time.
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very cool, what is the 3rd one down, I really like it.
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Hi Theo I had a thought what if you used clear full sheet labels https://www.amazon.com/Avery-Frosted.../dp/B002NEGTBU I have used these before and they work well. Scan your drawings in or copy them using a flat bed scanner then print them on the clear label sheet. I have also used water slide decal paper for a few projects it works good too. https://www.amazon.com/Kodiak-Suppli...s%2C180&sr=1-4
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Theo, I use Transfer paper for wood. Works for me,either print out or hand draw.
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very cool, what is the 3rd one down, I really like it.
Almost every cane I design/make has a hook of some sort on the end of the handle. This is so it can be hung up, hook items way back on a grocery store shelf, and so on. This particular one started out as a dog, but decided I didn't want another dog with it's tongue hanging down, so birds are easy, and now it is a bird dog.

And a couple more I hope you all realize, none of these are finalized yet, they are all rough drafts. Final versions will be actual size.
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Ronanne and Herb.

Thanks but no thanks. Scanner/printer died a good long while ago, and as I didn't really use the scanner that much, replaced it with a regular printer. That would also involve buying the paper. As far as transferring patterns, have known about a number of processes for doing that for a long time. Never got a transfer that worked out dark enough, and wasn't about to go over the transfers to darken them. And that would also involve buying paper.

No, my way works for me in a number of ways. For one thing I'll always have a roll of TP available if I forget to buy some, and run out. I can afford to make a lot of tries, with minimal cost. The lines come out nicely dark. I can color the designs on the computer before they are printed out, and change colors as I like. Or just print out the design as is, and let the buyer color if he/she wants.
And possibly the best part is, no one will be able to tell me I'm doing it wrong.

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I like the bird dog, it reminds me of a flamingo
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I like the bird dog, it reminds me of a flamingo
Awhile back I decided I wanted a design with an extinct rhino. I thought I was making pretty good progress, until I showed it to a couple of nurses. They both agreed, it was a lovely giraffe. So call it what you will. Actually, I did work on at least one flamingo design, but it is buried in one of five sketchbooks, and I don't feel like looking it up just now.
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Theo,

What about tracing paper? It's quite reasonably priced and easy to find in stationary stores. Something called onion skin paper is available too that is very transparent and both are much tougher than that roll paper you've been getting. You can see through them when they are lying on top of an image too. Lay a piece of it on your sketch, add a piece of tape along one edge to act as a hinge to keep it aligned but lift-able to check details of the image below without loosing location, and then trace the image onto the paper. Then apply rubber cement onto the back of the tracing paper and attach it to your wood. You can trim it to size before gluing if it suits you. Rubber cement (from the stationery store) peels off of wood easily. Paint thinner removes any that doesn't come off.

I use a laser printer to make patterns for my 3D reindeer and then cut them from the standard paper sheet to glue them onto the wood with rubber cement. Then I cut them out with my scroll saw. Another way to use laser or photo copier images is to lay the printed side on the wood and again attach them to the wood with a piece of tape along one edge to act as a hinge. Then, using a household iron, I heat the surface, melting the high temp wax ink, and transferring it to the wood. The tape lets me lift the sheet to see missed places but keep the paper aligned, so I can apply more heat to these missed places. You could get a photo copy made of your sketch if you want to try this, but set the copier for a very dark, but clear image to get extra ink on the lines so they will iron on better.

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What about old fashioned carbon paper? All kinds here, including some just for woodworking: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=carbon+pa...b_sb_ss_i_4_12

This is specifically for wood: https://www.amazon.com/Tracing-Graph...s%2C379&sr=8-8

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