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Not one single prediction that has been put forward on global warming (or cooling) has come true. NOT ONE!
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Glacier National Park will son not have any glaciers. Arctic ice is disappearing.
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Weren't you the fellow that posted the article a couple years ago that the electric cars made my Telsa would force all the power to go off to all the homes in a subdivision if 4 or more car owners plugged in at the same time? A friend drives his Telsa 5-days a week to work then plug it in to a 220 outlet in his garage Friday night. By Saturday morning it is charged. Used about the same amount of power as a cooktop or clothes dryer. I think a lot of the message flying around is made up that are made up by knuckle dragging rednecks.
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Art, I have not fully decided on climate change, as the conditions of the Feinman principles have not been met, in my opnion.
However, what I think we can all agree on, is that we have been living profligately, and unnecessarily so:
The amount of food wasted each year, particularly in the West.
The amount of single-use plastic, in which we are drowning.
The amount of waste in general - we are running out of landfill sites.
The amount of toxins introduced into the water systems and food chains.
The amount of built-in obsolescence in consumer products (think throw-away tools - my late father must be spinning in his grave; think throw-away “fashion” - my mother may be resurfacing out of hers in outrage).
The amount of BS being generated daily on news media of all descriptions, needing storage in expensive, energy-guzzling data centres.
The amount of unnecessary travel, on a whim. It used to be called “cruising” in the old days of gas-guzzlers. Now equally fatuous moving around is done in wide-bodied jets. Never mind the energy, carbon emissions, etc, think of all the viruses being spread gratuitously around the globe.
BTW, despite all these “freedoms”, depression is set to become the leading cause of morbidity in the next ten years, so apparently we are not the happier for them.
I would argue that, whether these and other activities contribute to global warming or not, they are legitimate targets for intervention in their own right. Any ecosystem has a maximum carrying capacity, and we must be fast approaching ours.
But I would automatically question the motives of any grandstanding politician on these matters, starting with one of yours of “dimpled chad” fame. Having said that, after questioning, I would accept that some are sincere.
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I’ve seen several very reputable scientists state lately that CO2 is unlikely to be much of a climate driver. There simply isn’t enough of it and no climate model has ever taken into account how much elevated CO2 will stimulate plant growth. One thing virtually no one points out is that all of the carbon in the fossil fuels we burn was once above ground and part of our atmosphere. Those fossil fuels were plants that were thriving on the CO2 in the atmosphere. I saw a really good video a few days ago by a geologist with 50 years experience who put on a presentation for some Washington State politicians and he had very good data that showed every warming period we’ve had matched elevated sea temperatures along the coast lines meaning that climate is more water vapour driven than anything else. That means changes are solar driven. We have no influence over that.

Most of what Biagio spoke of is a pollution problem not a climate problem. The pollution problem is a population problem which is something we aren’t dealing with at all. Dan was correct when he said that data has recently been altered because it didn’t match the narrative. We are actually headed into a cooling period and snow and ice are building in Antarctica and in central Greenland even though levels are down on coastal Greenland. As the scientist I saw recently said “it took years for the ice to melt, it takes years for it to build again”.

For anyone thinking it’s hotter now, the hottest years in North America were the 1930s and the worst hurricane was the Labor Day hurricane in the early 30s.
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Herb, the one problem I had I finally solved...I added a foot to my tape rule to make sure I never again cut a piece too short...then sneak up on it a little at a time... It used to be that no matter how many times I cut it, it was still too short...
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Art, I have not fully decided on climate change, as the conditions of the Feinman principles have not been met, in my opnion.
However, what I think we can all agree on, is that we have been living profligately, and unnecessarily so:
The amount of food wasted each year, particularly in the West.
The amount of single-use plastic, in which we are drowning.
The amount of waste in general - we are running out of landfill sites.
The amount of toxins introduced into the water systems and food chains.
The amount of built-in obsolescence in consumer products (think throw-away tools - my late father must be spinning in his grave; think throw-away “fashion” - my mother may be resurfacing out of hers in outrage).
The amount of BS being generated daily on news media of all descriptions, needing storage in expensive, energy-guzzling data centres.
The amount of unnecessary travel, on a whim. It used to be called “cruising” in the old days of gas-guzzlers. Now equally fatuous moving around is done in wide-bodied jets. Never mind the energy, carbon emissions, etc, think of all the viruses being spread gratuitously around the globe.
BTW, despite all these “freedoms”, depression is set to become the leading cause of morbidity in the next ten years, so apparently we are not the happier for them.
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But I would automatically question the motives of any grandstanding politician on these matters, starting with one of yours of “dimpled chad” fame. Having said that, after questioning, I would accept that some are sincere.

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Weren't you the fellow that posted the article a couple years ago that the electric cars made my Telsa would force all the power to go off to all the homes in a subdivision if 4 or more car owners plugged in at the same time? A friend drives his Telsa 5-days a week to work then plug it in to a 220 outlet in his garage Friday night. By Saturday morning it is charged. Used about the same amount of power as a cooktop or clothes dryer. I think a lot of the message flying around is made up that are made up by knuckle dragging rednecks.
I didn’t post the article but I find it interesting that we were told to get rid of our incandescent lights and change to LED, plus to make sure you pull your phone chargers out of the wall when their not in use , because of problems with over taxing the power grid .
Now you require a 60 amp service installed to charge an electric car. If these phone chargers sitting idle and incandescent lights are of major concern , I’d sure hate to see what’s going to happen when half the population has electric cars .
Of course they will fix the problem by rebuilding the infrastructure on our dime . Can’t wait to see the price of power then
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