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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 10-05-2019, 09:05 AM Thread Starter
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This topic was recently discussed yet it still happens. What is the "Lobby" for? Everyone on this form is an adult. As an adult, you know or should know what is offensive and should not post such material. Other than offensive material what is the rationale of stopping someone from having a conversation with anyone that wants to be involved with the conversation? I realize that people in different countries have different opinions and I for one like to hear those opinions. Maybe I am getting slanted news or maybe they are getting slanted news. I also understand that there are those that would like to stop free speech (speech that doesn't agree with their way of thinking) as they are doing on so many college campuses today. I would say to the censors back off. If someone feels that they have a valid argument then respond. If someone is offended by someone else that doesn't agree with their point of view then ignore the thread. Follow your mother's advise. Stop reading it, don't respond to it. Go to your safe space and you'll be okay. Just don't use the worn-out phrase that this is a forum about woodworking and therefore anything else shouldn't be discussed. If that is the case then do away with the Lobby.
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Totally agree.
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Totally agree.
Likewise.
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John was keeping a better eye on that thread than I was , even though I participated in it. He discussed it with me and we both felt that as is often the case in these type discussions that the the discussion was highly polarized between two sides. Both sides had made statements and presented facts and neither John nor I saw much benefit in letting the thread continue and possibly degrade into a pissing match with each side accusing the other of being stupid. We have lost members over time because of discussions like these. One I can name is Furboo ((Rob) who made the statement “I like you guys but not your politics”. Rob works as an academic so I’m assuming he is liberally minded where most of us tend to be conservative here. We don’t need to lose members over topics like this so that’s why it got closed. There are forums where it can be discussed like Facebook.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Interesting that you, Charles, and Bill, had offered your opinions...on opposite sides of the discussion. Sort of illustrates Art's points.
But frankly I don't care that it was closed; as has been mentioned both sides made their points and I doubt that any of the posters have changed their minds.
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I agree with Chuck and John, I get blasted with so much of that stuff daily on my email account,that I delete 100's of emails every morning. I often wondered what happened to Rob, he was a great member, I miss him.
In my opinion there are too many word games on this forum, around 5 ,I think, and there are times when a new post is crowded off the side bar in a couple of hours by the word games. The divisive topics are usually because of political opinions and there is no resolutions to be had, I think the topic in question had covered both ends of that and should have been ended. I myself am on here for the woodworking ideas and the respect that everyone has for each other here. For me it is an escape from the mess the world is in now and I appreciate the moderators trying to keep it that way, there are plenty of places on the media to kick that stuff around, and those forums really get into the yelling matches and cesspool of language.
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It would be very nice if there was a selection on the "thread tools" menu to "ignore this thread", as many other forums have.

It would also be very nice if you could ignore/block certain sub-forums (or whatever they are called), so that when you choose "new posts", you don't see a list of threads from those sub-forums. For instance, some folks may have no interest in CNC, etc.
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It would be very nice if there was a selection on the "thread tools" menu to "ignore this thread", as many other forums have.

It would also be very nice if you could ignore/block certain sub-forums (or whatever they are called), so that when you choose "new posts", you don't see a list of threads from those sub-forums. For instance, some folks may have no interest in CNC, etc.
Thread titles appear on the left and the sub forum they’re in appears on the right. Just get in the habit of either checking that column first or also. We had a member for a short while around 5 years ago (a glass half empty type) who often complained about threads not related to wood working and I pointed out to him that he was in total control of the left mouse button so his attitude didn’t seem very logical.
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Hey, its a woodworking forum, what part of "woodworking" is difficult To understand?
Its a moderated forum, what part of moderated is difficult to understand?
In a world where there are a 100 forums to every single online person, make the choice. move on.
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The only thing I can say is if it gets nasty then cut it off this forum. As long as people are respectful and not name calling then let it go. But in our polarized country (USA) the folks that say they are tolerant are often the most intolerant. They are tolerant of your ideas only if they agree with them. If you do not agree with them then you are speaking hate. Words and speech are not hateful. Only your interpretation of someone else words is hateful. Even if someone says what is generally thought by a majority to be hateful is not hateful unless you interpretative it that way. Even if you take exception to someone else speech you can just choose to ignore it. When you argue with stupid people you never win and usually lower your own IQ.

Just remember opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one and most stink.
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