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When I go to Harry's link it shows the bits as being 1/2" shank...

I suppose at an average cost of $1.68 each, it's a heck of a bargain compared to some of the Freud or Amana or some of the others...assuming similar quality...

There's also a Yonico 15-piece, 1/2" set for same money...wonder how that would compare...
You're right, Nick. It was Stick's link that had the 1/4" shanks.
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You're right, Nick. It was Stick's link that had the 1/4" shanks.

Gotta keep an eye on him...you know what happens when he's left unsupervised...
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Gotta keep an eye on him...you know what happens when he's left unsupervised...
same outfit..
same bits..
same crappy brazing...
same slip stream sharpening...
and you can bet those were the best bits for the photo shoot...

and there's nothing you can do about wallet thinkers...
except sell them clearing house leftovers...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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I'd never use the majority of those but even if I only used 15 of them, at $60Cdn, not a huge risk, economically speaking.
The thing that would stop me is that they're 1/4" shank. Already have a DIMAR set of 1/4" shanks.
https://www.kmstools.com/woodpeckers...r-bit-set-5362
I think I paid about $64Cdn...on sale.
Dan, you've made the same error as Stick, the set shown in this thread have 1/2" shanks.


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Perhaps I am the odd one here but I have a minimal number of router bits each purchased for a specific purpose. As a result I go for the quality as I tend to build related projects. That is until I tire of that process and embark on another series, which generally leads to buying another bit. Then voila, one has enough bits to embark on something a bit more obtuse. Pun intended.
Jon, newcomers to routing don't know what bits to purchase, therefor a kit like this allows one to experiment with all the different profiles. As I have stated many times, there is far more to routing than edge treatment as shown in my many threads/tutorials.
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same outfit..
same bits..
same crappy brazing...
same slip stream sharpening...
and you can bet those were the best bits for the photo shoot...

and there's nothing you can do about wallet thinkers...
except sell them clearing house leftovers...
You are SO WRONG Stick. It's blatantly obvious that you haven't tried such bits, if you had you would change your mind. I don't doubt that in your working days you used routers, but as a professional builder you would of course only purchase the best available. This forum is made up mainly of amateurs, attempting to learn the basics and finer points of routing and when proficient will no doubt purchase quality bits of types that they have been using regularly.
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You are SO WRONG Stick. It's blatantly obvious that you haven't tried such bits,
horse hockey Harry...
I have...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
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Please show us, I don't recall seeing any of your projects Stick, I've shown many of mine using all types and qualities of router bits ranging from about $3.00 to $90.00 plus.
The photo shows the first time that I used this very low cost bit and all went well and I've used it a number of times since with the same excellent results. Even an experienced routologist like myself buys low cost bits that I don't envisage using a great deal.
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I own mostly premium bits, but thinking back, I bought most of them when I still had a healthy income. Not long ago I bought a couple of Yonoco bits just to try them out, and they worked quite well. I don't do a lot of routing these days, so every bit I own is still in good shape. I was not for kits because the ones I looked at were all 1/4 inch. But this is half an inch so if I were just starting, I'd give it a try. Being able to experiment because you have the odd bit on hand, would be tempting. I'm with Harry on this particular half inch shank beginner kit. But I'd make light cuts on multiple passes so I didn't over stress them. My take anyhow.
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I would think it would not be a matter of which shank, 1/4 or 1/2...

It seems to me it would be the quality of the carbide (grade), amount of carbide used, process of applying the carbide to the bit and sharpness. Likewise the bit's ability to absorb the heat it generates without it blowing apart.

There are plenty of catalog images depicting the final cut of the profile and it behooves a "newbie" to be ensured of the highest level of safety. Whether a bit is of low or high quality (purely on the basis of cost) is not the issue...it is whether a bit is manufactured in a quality-conscious environment that counts.

Given a choice of taking the high road or the low road I would opt for the high road and take the risk with the higher-cost bit, the cost of which might pay for a whole set.

Realistically, even a newbie would never go through all the bits in a 30, 40, 50 bit set. I would rather help preach the attitude to select and then buy rather than buy then select.

When I first started routering I remember appreciating the discussion of whether to buy lots of cheap bits or higher quality (known experience) bits. I also remember (after the fact) that I didn't need the other 30/40. I also remember this forum preferring and recommending a higher quality, lower bit count sets. Remember the discussions about the best 9 or 10 router bits to have in inventory...? What happened to that thinking...?

I am not defending one or the other position...rather the position that we should be teaching the new to routers how to select the right bit for the job and not just in profiles but in the value of selecting the best tool the budget will allow.

No offense intended to whichever position the reader happens to take...
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