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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 03-27-2020, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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@harrysin Harry Sinclair's last post was on March 15, if my search on the forum was correct.

Harry, are you OK? I hope the virus didn't get to you.

We old guys need to hide from this one, so I'm hoping that this is your reason for not posting lately. I haven't been out of my home/yard/shop, except for "absolutely necessary" items in several weeks because I'm certain that I won't survive this one.

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I think Harry got banned Charlie.
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I think Harry got banned Charlie.
It was a time out...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Sorry to hear that. I guess I'll have to spend more time keeping up with things here.

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His time out is over but he hasn't chosen to come back on yet.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Forum time outs do upset some folks.

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A time out is kinda childish... considering all he has contributed over the years. I like Harry and hope he is doing well.
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@harrysin Your friends are missing you.
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This isn't Harry's first time out. He's had several over the years. Harry refuses to recognize authority and feels he can do anything he wants on the forum, perhaps partly because he has done so much for it and because of members like you Gary that hold that attitude towards him and reinforce his sense of entitlement. I'll post again part of a conservation between moderators back in 2014 before any of us current ones were involved.

"Here in lies the problem. We always have had somebody talking us out of suspending or banning someone and that is a problem in my book. We all know this has happened more than once. If they can't live by the rules IMHO there is no room for them on here. Period. I belong to 7 other woodworking forums and I can tell you Harry's post would not be tolerated. He would have been gone in a minute. There are rules and they need to be lived by and that is by all of us. I stand by ( another moderator) in the fact I am done with taking these kinds antics from anyone including those who think they can get away with anything. "


So you can see that this has been an ongoing problem for a very long time that only gets better for short periods before he lapses back to what is unacceptable behaviour towards other members and he is at his worst when someone disagrees with something he says.

In most or all of the cases I can remember he has started looking for both support and sympathy from the members who feel his bad behaviour should be overlooked. I expressly told him to stop doing that because first of all it is not a mature way to deal with the problem and secondly, it makes the forum look bad to new and prospective members. He was expressly told never to start one of those threads again, to take the matter up with the moderators by PM instead and less than 24 hours after he was told he did it again.

We mods have been tasked with keeping the forum a place where people enjoy coming to share information and ideas and when we say you need to stop doing something that is against the forum rules then you either have to stop or chance the consequences. Harry voluntarily chose the latter. And just in case you are wondering, the currently active moderators were unanimous in that action.

So I have to ask which do you think is more childish Gary, our giving him a time out for his unacceptable behavior or Harry's repeated failure to follow rules about member respect and thumbing his nose at the moderators when we tell him to stop?

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Desert Rat Tom,
Harry was banned from the Forum. It is a real sad situation to have this happen to a man with his exceptional talent If you would like to contact Harry Sin, this is his current email address. I know he would like to hear from his friends here on the Forum.



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