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I have finally got around to the construction of my router skis. The workpiece board is about 3 ft by 2 ft with markings for the "T" nuts at 1 inch increments waiting to be drilled to take 1/4 inch screws for the cams. This brings me to a couple of questions....
Do I drill a diagonal pattern for the cams?
How many do I require over that area?
I assume I have to bolt/screw the work area to a bench?
Looking in some of the galleries I notice some have made a rectangular "box" to accomodate the timber to be worked. Can I just use the cams to secure the project or is the "box" a better option?
What cam sizes?...I have some rounded stock with a diameter of 1and7/8's Is that too large?

As usual, any info would be good, Regards......AL
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Al., you've made a very neat job of the skis, BUT, the cam board, me thinks that it's FAR too big. I hope that you haven't got the idea that such a set-up is for all routing, nothing could be farther from the truth and in MY experience, most ski routing is freehand, in other words the end cheeks are not running against rails or the sides of a cam box. This evening I shall continue the story of the "$3.00 router table" and you will see two ways of using the skis, neither with a cam box.

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Thanks Harry.....not quite with you regarding the cam board but will wait for your $3 table. When you say the board is too big.....what, too long? yes, I get your thoughts about the freehand routing. I assume the cam board can be used for a multiple of purposes/freehand routing/signs etc. At least with the skis I can use it as a small jointer to "flatten" pieces of irregular shapes?What about using the skis for hollowing small jewelery boxes? Am I correct?......Regards AL
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Does your router slide along the rods as you use it ?
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Does your router slide along the rods as you use it ?
Hi Gav:

I'll be experimenting with that later this season. At the moment, I and most others use the router clamped to the rods. I have a bunch of lap joints I have to do and that's the quickest I can think of to do them.

I've put together a short set of rods specifically for that.

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I'm thinking that having the router slide along the rods would be useful for those of us that have limited space. You could have a smaller work surface when doing it that way.
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Sliding the router along the rods is NOT the way to go. Operating the router by it's own handles will vary slightly the depth of cut due to changes in applied pressure. The idea of the skis is to operate them from the end cheeks which not only gives an accurate depth of cut but gives great mechanical advantage, in other words very accurate control of the router.
When I became a member over three years ago, T.T. was attempting to promote the skis, albeit unsuccessfully due to abysmal communication skills. To my knowledge, only one member had seen the potential and made some very successful projects. I took over from T.T. and patiently chipped away using photo shoots and gradually many members started to experiment including the well respected member who had been 100% against skis, I refer to non other than BJ! Once he tried them, he was hooked and made his own versions which I consider brilliant for slots and dados but but little else!
For the full benefit of a ski set-up, I consider that they should not be locked to a board where they can only move forward and back, for this purpose I have shown many projects where two rails are quickly screwed to the sacrificial bench to suit the specific requirement. Finally, as I've said many times, skis are not the be all for routing, simply an extra tool, used occasionally to solve unusual or difficult problems as in my thread of the $3.00 router table.

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Hi Harry

I now use them for many jobs not just slots I could post them all but just too many see about 400 shots of them in My Gallery along with many templates and how to make them...

here's just some of the jobs..

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Sliding the router along the rods is NOT the way to go. Operating the router by it's own handles will vary slightly the depth of cut due to changes in applied pressure. The idea of the skis is to operate them from the end cheeks which not only gives an accurate depth of cut but gives great mechanical advantage, in other words very accurate control of the router.
When I became a member over three years ago, T.T. was attempting to promote the skis, albeit unsuccessfully due to abysmal communication skills. To my knowledge, only one member had seen the potential and made some very successful projects. I took over from T.T. and patiently chipped away using photo shoots and gradually many members started to experiment including the well respected member who had been 100% against skis, I refer to non other than BJ! Once he tried them, he was hooked and made his own versions which I consider brilliant for slots and dados but but little else!
For the full benefit of a ski set-up, I consider that they should not be locked to a board where they can only move forward and back, for this purpose I have shown many projects where two rails are quickly screwed to the sacrificial bench to suit the specific requirement. Finally, as I've said many times, skis are not the be all for routing, simply an extra tool, used occasionally to solve unusual or difficult problems as in my thread of the $3.00 router table.


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Hi Harry:

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Sliding the router along the rods is NOT the way to go.
I have a bunch of lap joints to make. In the past I've used the skis but cut a kerf with the radio alarm saw first. I was hoping that I could skip the kerf step and slide the router on the rods instead. The router slides nicely on the smooth rods.

I've tried freehanding and although it is not bad, it ain't great. Needs a guide of some sort without having to resort to a template. I've lived through table saws, band saws, radial arm saws, even cutting them by hand and none match the speed and accuracy of the skis.

I was hoping that I could cut them in batches of four joints at a time, hence sliding the router on the rails.

Any suggestions?

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