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When you watch these live feeds from the ROVs, you can get a better sense of what is really happening. Makes you want to throw your hands up and say "what the hell".
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Unfortunately we,ll be dealing with this for decades.
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As you both feel, yes we will be dealing with this for awhile and in the future, I am sure. We have many rigs off our coast as well and our government saying, Quote,, "something that will never happen and we have safe guards" this is the story,, Yea sure, I don't think so.

I look at the sea life, if we don't over fish it we kill it or the vegetation that is critical to our ecosystem. Our track record on our planet is very poor.

We sometimes push too hard for one reason or the other but it is the unknown factor or human error that will get us in the end. We are such an intelligent species but thick as a fence post.

Right now the gulf region has the worst but don't feel left out it will spread and we can all share I guess there was a touch of sarcasm there,,, but but but

What are our alternatives to fossil fuel? We as a world depend on it. Sad but true.

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The Gov't. is wise to force BP to drill a second relief well head, unfortunately, this won't be completed until Aug. or Sept. However, BP should've been forced to contact the experts over in Dubai in the first place. Asking for help is a good sign. The sad thing is, BP officials knew well in advance there were problems and continued to ignore them. Yet, somehow, our own Gov't. still has yet to do anything about that fact!! Yes, there is documented proof. So far, they are to pay "reparations" to those affected. BS!! That isn't enough to make up for what they did.

So, lets see what's all been truly affected here. The lost of lives of the workers, the families of those lost. The environment itself, the fishermen, jobs, economy. Not sure I should continue. BP's CEO should be brought up on charges for allowing this happen in the first place. He has done nothing but spout out "excuses". Now, with this chemical they're using to disperse the oil, they're unsure as to what it's chemical make up is and how harmful it is. It DOES contain some very bad stuff health wise to humans. Stupid idiots is all I can call them!!

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Maybe now there is an incentive to complete the projects started in the late 70's and terminated in the early 80's to develop safe alternatives. They are out there. We need better solar and wind energy technologies to generate electricity. We need much better battery technology. Nuclear energy is much safer now than it was in the days of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island.

None of these things will bring back the 11 people killed on the rig, nor will they make whole the lives of their families, nor will they bring back the ways of life of all the people living along the Gulf coasts. None of these things will restore the ecosystems that will take years to decades to recover once the oil gusher is stopped.

As I learn more about the original explosion, and the initial efforts to stop the continuing eruption of oil, the more I am convinced the BP and TransOcean supervisors are idiots. First based on the geology of the gulf floor it is not safe to drill there, period. Once the TransOcean drilling started, the way things were going and the composition of the flow, they should have known that there would be methane hydrate formation. If they did not have the phase diagram of methane, water, temperature and pressure emblazoned in their brains, they were not competent to do what they were doing. Of course the first top hat, top cap or whatever they should have known that it would rapidly fill with methane hydrates and be lifted off the floor.

I second everything said by Ken, John, Tommy and Mike.

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No matter how much I love my car, this whole thing just sickens me. Everytime I see pictures of this disaster I want to scream. How can we do such things with no safeguards? Why is it always "if" it happens we'll deal with it, when in fact we have NO way to "deal" with it. The damage was instantaneous and everybody KNEW it would be. I really hope this puts the push on for alternative energy sources.

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Ocean Saratoga, another deep well, has been leaking since April. That little tidbit was just released.

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The Gov't. is wise to force BP to drill a second relief well head, unfortunately, this won't be completed until Aug. or Sept. However, BP should've been forced to contact the experts over in Dubai in the first place. Asking for help is a good sign. The sad thing is, BP officials knew well in advance there were problems and continued to ignore them. Yet, somehow, our own Gov't. still has yet to do anything about that fact!! Yes, there is documented proof. So far, they are to pay "reparations" to those affected. BS!! That isn't enough to make up for what they did.

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Really? Come on now.
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Ocean Saratoga, another deep well, has been leaking since April. That little tidbit was just released.
I wonder how this leak escaped notice until now. It does explain some of the heretofore mysterious findings.

Great thanks for the information.

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Really? Come on now.
I have to agree with Ken. There was incompetence, negligence and cost saving omission of safety steps.

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