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I have never understood why do we have to pay so much for shipping of items coming from the US,I do however understand there are more paper work involved and filling custom forms and brokerage fee ,importation tax etc.but is it so expensive ?

What my beef is why doesn't a us vendor give a discount on shipping to Canada when they offer "FREE SHIPPING" to the US residents?.

I give you an example what I'm talking about,I just bought a router from:Trend T4 1.1 HP VS Plunge Router at Woodcraft.com
This router would have cost $99 to a US customer and....$160 to a Canadian .

I was hoping the free shipping offer to be extended to us over her for something like: "%50 off shipping cost to our valued Canadian customer"

Or may be we are not valued that much but seriously I hope you know what I mean ,why do we have to pay full shipping when we shop at places like MLCS ,Peachtree,etc.
A lot of us here (when buying from the US) have had to resort to give a US address to take advantage of the free shipping (for big items) and travel across the border to bring it to Canada some could save $300-$500 if not more doing this.

I'm sorry for the rant but I just think something has to be done about this shipping business ,it only makes sense.
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Rant away but to be truly honest I think that the reason is.. Your Government! I'm not sure but they seem to need to get their hands into everything (kinda like ours) I used to drive semi truck to Canada and I would hate every trip. Don't get me wrong you have a beautiful country but crossing the border was a pain, had to have all paperwork checked and triple checked my truck searched and searched again, just to make sure I'm not taking anything across the border that I'm not supposed to have, it would take hours
Just my thoughts but the real reason is and its goes for every thing in every country, is its that expensive because we the people buck down and pay it. if we told them to stick it up your ass instead they would drop the price, for they would have no choice to.

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That may be an impact Rick.. but IMO its mostly an excuse. The same situation exists when they ship to Alaska.. and we're in the same country, last I heard. With 1200 miles to drive to get to Seattle, driving across and picking it up isn't an option. There is no inter-country paperwork, taxes, etc., shipping to Alaska.

When I purchased my Delta Unisaw last summer (660# freight), places were selling it at list price with "free shipping" in the 'Continental U.S.' ". They'd ship it to Seattle free but wouldn't make it a single shipment all the way, with me paying the difference. As a single point-to-point shipment, the incremental would have been ~$100. As two separate "legs", the Seattle to Alaska portion would have been $750.

It worked out even better for me that they were as they were... I was able to order it (at the same list price) through my local hardware store and, by waiting for their freight order, not pay freight. I wouldn't have objected at paying the $100 to them but they said it wasn't necessary.

That's before discussing the issue of "Continental U.S.". I live on the *North American* continent. I don't know where they live and can only hazard a *guess* what planet they live on.

I've now got a new Ingersoll Rand compressor on order through them.. i'll be paying about $150 extra for shipping and its taking 5 weeks to get here.

Ken, you might talk to some of your locally-owned hardware stores.. especially one what handles the brand (but not the model) you want and ask about ordering it with their next freight shipment. For me it involves putting 50% down but it saves me $$$ and saves the store $$$ by getting the $$ upfront and knowing its immediately sold on arrival, so there's no inventory cost for them. In my case, my local store will deliver it (into my shop) at no additional charge. With things like a 400# compressor or a 600# saw, it's a big plus!

The hardware store also comes out since I've been buying more other stuff from them and less from the BBS's. It feels good buying from the locally-owned business to boot!

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I just shipped a package to Austrailia and nearly had a heart attack at the shipping cost. I really wish I had stock in UPS!

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I agree with Jim. Go to a locally owned hardware store (there must be one in Toronto) and negotiate the deal with them. Be up front about the internet purchase price including shipping and see if they will make a deal (be sure to talk to the owner or manager not a clerk or checkout person). Stress that you want to give your money to them, not the BBs. If they don't want to bargain, my first choice is to look for another store and try again, second choice, pay them what they want and continue to do business there. I have found that after you become a familiar face, and demonstrate that you can be a good customer, most businesses will bend over backward to keep you.

I live in the States, but visit my in-laws in Vancouver, BC, regularly and even if we want to bring Christmas or birthday gifts we have to declare everything when crossing the border. IMO is government protectionism and revenue generation that keeps the prices up. We are not asked those questions when we come back (but the ID requirements are much more strict).

At any rate, as my Dad used to say, the easiest $ you'll ever make is the $ you don't take out of your pocket. Keep trying to make a deal. Sometimes it works out.

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There is also a problem with shipping from Canada to the U.S. Oak-Park used to ship from Elie Manitoba or from a site in Minnesota, depending on where the shipment was going. Now they ship only from Elie. At least they pay the duties.

I have no basis for comparing the relative costs of shipping into Canada from the U.S. and into the U.S from Canada. Please do not anyone think I am making light of a serious money sink for our forum members.

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Ken, another solution might be a US post office box. All depends on how often you cross the border. You're close enough to Buffalo, and if you did some cross-border shopping once or twice a month it might be an option. If it's too big for the box, they will hold it in the back office and just put a claim card in your box. Of course, to be legal you still have to declare it, but it sure cuts down on the shipping costs.

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I just shipped a package to Austrailia and nearly had a heart attack at the shipping cost. I really wish I had stock in UPS!

Yes, Deb,

The parcel arrived for first attempt at delivery on Thursday.

I was there to receive it on Friday.

I am really impressed with the service from UPS....

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James I am glad everything arrived in good order. Still.. that shipping cost was terrifying! There have been occasions when I nearly ordered things from AU. I don't know that I would even consider it now.

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James I am glad everything arrived in good order. Still.. that shipping cost was terrifying! There have been occasions when I nearly ordered things from AU. I don't know that I would even consider it now.

I agree, I think I will try and make anything else I need in future.

I think I have all I need now to make some small boxes out of my spare wood piles....

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