What are these? - Router Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
Retired Moderator
 
CanuckGal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Country: Canada
First Name: Deb
Posts: 3,132
 
Send a message via MSN to CanuckGal
Default What are these?

Does anybody know what these are and what they are used for?
The bronze powders say mix with liquid to form a "cream". What liquid? How are they applied?
What does one do with those "sticks"?
I'm restoring a wooden machinist's chest and these were in it and I am curious.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	bronze-powder.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	32.5 KB
ID:	38699  

Click image for larger version

Name:	sticks.jpg
Views:	49
Size:	33.1 KB
ID:	38700  


EGO postulo , EGO venalicium , EGO incidere.
I measured, I marked, I cut.
Latin instructions for firewood.

Get the Router Workshop Video Series Online!
CanuckGal is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 02:30 PM
Forum Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: United States
First Name: Bj
Posts: 23,786
       
Default

Hi Deb

It Looks like buffing compound sticks, it's put on the wheel to get that nice finish and to take out the little marks on steel/etc. used by tool and die makers the norm.

" cream " it comes in a little jar and it's mixed with the compound and it's put on with a brush or your finger the norm. it looks like hand cream but it's not..

========

Quote:
Originally Posted by CanuckGal View Post
Does anybody know what these are and what they are used for?
The bronze powders say mix with liquid to form a "cream". What liquid? How are they applied?
What does one do with those "sticks"?
I'm restoring a wooden machinist's chest and these were in it and I am curious.



"It's fine to disagree with other members as long as you respect their opinions"

Marc Sommerfeld Tools ,Videos
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-n...RWaEpMA/videos

Find all threads started by bobj3
http://www.routerforums.com/search.php?searchid=944097



Last edited by bobj3; 10-21-2010 at 02:37 PM.
bobj3 is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 02:45 PM
Registered User
 
mimac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Country: Canada
First Name: Brian
Posts: 442
 
Default

Hi Canuck girl
The first photo is a picture of Lining powders. These came in various grades, some so fine that they are like paint when they get on your skin. They are actually metal. They can be mixed with different mediums, but usually varnish and were used to high lite decorative paintings om antique furniture. The most common method of use was to apply a thin layer of varnish over the area to be treated, let it tack up and apply the powder on the varnish with a soft piece of fine leather on a home made finger cot for want of a better word. It,s been a long time and my memory is fading.

The second photo looks like a bunch of lacquer sticks. These are used to repair scratches etc. on fine furniture. Heat up a knife, melt a little of the appropriate color onto the knife and apply to the damaged area. I believe that Lee Valley still sells these.
mimac is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 04:38 PM
Retired Moderator
 
TwoSkies57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: United States
First Name: Bill
Posts: 5,992
   
Default

Hey Deb...

I do believe that Brian is right on all accounts...the owner musta dabbled in a little restoration work....

"..... limited only by imagination"

"Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave"
Skipper the Penguin
TwoSkies57 is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
Retired Moderator
 
CanuckGal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Country: Canada
First Name: Deb
Posts: 3,132
 
Send a message via MSN to CanuckGal
Default

Thanks guys! I found the lacquer sticks on Lee Valley. I don't think the brass powders are made anymore, no doubt metallic paints have replaced them. But I am glad to know what they are and what they were used for. I appreciate the help!

EGO postulo , EGO venalicium , EGO incidere.
I measured, I marked, I cut.
Latin instructions for firewood.

Get the Router Workshop Video Series Online!
CanuckGal is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-22-2010, 08:49 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: United States
First Name: Danny
Posts: 655
 
Default

Deb what kind of machinest chest? If it's a Gerstner don't do anything they are worth more in orignal condition. Unless it's totaly wasted.
jd99 is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-22-2010, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
Retired Moderator
 
CanuckGal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Country: Canada
First Name: Deb
Posts: 3,132
 
Send a message via MSN to CanuckGal
Default

It's a home made chest. A fellow at work got it from his girlfriend's grandfather who recently passed away. He asked me if I could redo it and make it into a jewellery chest for her for Xmas. It has no fancy joints, all put together with finish nails and glue. The drawer bottoms are sheet metal. I am just going to refinish it and line the drawers and maybe put some new hardware on it. Her grandfather signed it on the bottom using a hammer and a nail to spell out his name so I am trying to preserve that.
My camera has been on the fritz so I didn't take a picture of it before I started. I bought a new camera yesterday so hopefully I can chronicle it now.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	chest.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	381.5 KB
ID:	38720  

Click image for larger version

Name:	drawers.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	572.7 KB
ID:	38721  


EGO postulo , EGO venalicium , EGO incidere.
I measured, I marked, I cut.
Latin instructions for firewood.

Get the Router Workshop Video Series Online!
CanuckGal is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-22-2010, 12:12 PM
Registered User
 
allthunbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Country: Canada
First Name: Ron
Posts: 2,881
 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CanuckGal View Post
The bronze powders say mix with liquid to form a "cream". What liquid? How are they applied?
Hi Deb:

Sheffield used to make all kinds of finishing products, bronze, brass. Dad had some old Sheffield gold suspended in some sort of medium and used it to replace gold leaf. Did a reasonable job too.

It is possible that Sheffield still exists. Have you looked? I've bumped into several really old UK companies recently.

Allthunbs
allthunbs is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-22-2010, 08:35 PM
Retired Moderator
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Country: United States
First Name: Mike
Posts: 11,921
 
Send a message via Skype™ to Mike
Default

Deb, the lacquer sticks are melted into scratches and gouges to provide a base material close to the wood color. Once the area is filled and sanded graining pens are used to draw the grain in place. When you know how to use them you can fool furniture pro's with the repairs. I use and recommend Mohawk Professional refinishing supplies. You can google them for more info.

Mike
"Living in the D" (this means Detroit!)
"It's fine to disagree with other members as long as you respect their opinions"
Mike is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-22-2010, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
Retired Moderator
 
CanuckGal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Country: Canada
First Name: Deb
Posts: 3,132
 
Send a message via MSN to CanuckGal
Default

I couldn't find anything current on the Sheffield company on the web.
Mike I tried "playing" with the lacquer sticks with a hot knife, but mainly made a mess. I am sure there is a technique to it. I'll have to do more research.

EGO postulo , EGO venalicium , EGO incidere.
I measured, I marked, I cut.
Latin instructions for firewood.

Get the Router Workshop Video Series Online!
CanuckGal is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Router Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome