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Just to let members know that I appear to have picked up another virus or trojan from going to a website with a link from a post on the forum.

I have not yet been able to ascertain which post or which link.

I would advise caution on going to any site with a link in a post if you are not 100% sure of the source.

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Just to let members know that I appear to have picked up another virus or trojan from going to a website with a link from a post on the forum.

I have not yet been able to ascertain which post or which link.

I would advise caution on going to any site with a link in a post if you are not 100% sure of the source.
James,
This is a perfect opportunity for me to ask a question of you. Since you picked up a problem as you have described, the question begs, what good are virus protection programs. The reason I ask is that after installing Microsoft Security Essentials, I get pop ups constantly that I never got before the installations. Mostly these pop ups are trying to get me to buy back up programs, speed up computer programs etc. Makes me wonder why I even have the virus protection and/or the firewall. I realizw that I am nearly an idiot when it comes to thing like this.

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Jerry, you need more than just a virus program. I use MS Security Essentials as well and am pretty happy with it so far, but you also need a spyware program. Spybot Search and Destroy is one, Malware Malbytes is another. Spybot is free.. Malware used to be, not sure if it still is or not. These 2 are not the only ones of course, just ones that I have used.

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Jerry, you need more than just a virus program. I use MS Security Essentials as well and am pretty happy with it so far, but you also need a spyware program. Spybot Search and Destroy is one, Malware Malbytes is another. Spybot is free.. Malware used to be, not sure if it still is or not. These 2 are not the only ones of course, just ones that I have used.
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Would the programs that you are suggesting have anything to do with the problem that I am having when I open this forum using a shortcut. When I use the short cut, I get some type of advertising at the bottom of the screen and a list of links to woodworking subject. These two things pretty much cover up about half of the screen. However, if I go to Enternet Explorer and then to the window at the top of the screen and click on the triangel pointing down and then when the drop down window opens I click click on the address to the forum and it opens, none of the things described above appear snd the screen is clean and visible as it should be. Just wondering.

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Jerry, I have been using System Mechanic Professional from Iolo.com for about 6 years now on all my PC's. In addition to excellent anti virus protection this program can be set to perform all maintenance functions and keep your PC running at it's best. The program costs about $50 and can be used on all your PC's; it includes one year of service and renews for $20 a year (or less) to cover all your computers.

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Just to let members know that I appear to have picked up another virus or trojan from going to a website with a link from a post on the forum.

I have not yet been able to ascertain which post or which link.

I would advise caution on going to any site with a link in a post if you are not 100% sure of the source.
maybe there's something in here that can help...


Seems that our offshore "buddies" (hackers from China, N Korea and the middle East, Russia has pretty much dropped out of bizz because they were getting hacked too often) are up to their usual no good and have thrown a new dog in the pit that goes by the name of Rootkit...

It's Unix/Linux based...
From there it went to Mac' and then on to windows...
Do update MS for their security patches and use their crud finding software...
Microsoft Windows Update
Download Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool from Official Microsoft Download Center
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for me Norton and MacAfee are way tooooo propitiatory w/ marginal returns......
Here's a very good find/rip it out tool that's free...
Free Rootkit Detection and Removal | Sophos Anti-Rootkit Tool
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some more...
GMER - Rootkit Detector and Remover
5 Best Free Rootkit Removers || Free Software
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more AV more software..
http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download
Free Malware Removal Tool | Anti-Malware Scan Software
http://shop.malwarebytes.org/lpa/342...-d875-4e0a-b98...
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Knowledge...
Best AntiVirus Software Review 2013 | Compare Antivirus Software | Best Virus Protection - TopTenREVIEWS
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Systenance Software - Index.dat Analyzer

FileHippo.com - Download Free Software
CCleaner - PC Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download

Advanced SystemCare Free 6/5/4/3 Download Review for Windows XP/Vista/7 - IObit

Best Free Disk Defrag Software, your free disk defragmenter FOREVER

Emsisoft Anti-Malware for best protection - Free removal of Viruses, Bots, Spyware, Keyloggers, Trojans and Rootkits

Free Antivirus | Download Free Virus Protection Software | AVG
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Antivirus
AVG starter file - AVG AntiVirus Free 2013 - CNET Download.com
Avast starter file - http://files.avast.com/files/latest/...ome_setup.exe*
Avira - Avira Free Antivirus 2013 - CNET Download.com
PCTools - http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/*

Antispyware
A Squared Emsisoft Anti-Malware for best protection - Free removal of Viruses, Bots, Spyware, Keyloggers, Trojans and Rootkits
Superantispyware - http://downloads.superantispyware.co...tiSpyware.exe*
Spybotsd - http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfi...2966193677...*

AntiRootKit
Combofix - (I don't utilize unless there is a suspected problem - danger Will Robinson) http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/sUBs/ComboFix.exe*

Drive Cleaner
Cleanup! - http://stevengould.org/downloads/cleanup/CleanUp40.exe*
CCleaner - PC Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download
iobit Advanced SystemCare Free 6/5/4/3 Download Review for Windows XP/Vista/7 - IObit

Registry Cleaner
MV RegClean 5.9 English - http://www.velasco.com.br/mvregclean59-en.zip*
*CCleaner - PC Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download
now go back and look again in processes and services...
see if you have any of these items in either column...
you need to look very carefully...
Afinding.exe
Macidwe.exe
Nobicyt.exe
Perfs.exe
Routing.exe
Sobicyt.exe
Tdxdowkc.exe
Wserving.exe
Run window*type: RegEdit
Ctrl*- F gives you a Find window
type in the name of the file without extension.* (ie. Afinding)
*Click Find Next button or hit Enter.
*After you've cleaned everything up, make sure nothing is running and make sure the files aren't there, then Reboot the computer


Disconnect the infected computer from the internet so that the rootkits can't call for help.
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1. Use another (clean) computer that's connected to the internet to download several antivirus and internet security packages.* You have to download onto a separate computer because the infected computer's malware is likely to prevent the downloads:
1. Go to Utilities and download the trial version of Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool.
2. Go to Antivirus Software Downloads for Windows - CNET Download.com and download the trial version of Kaspersky Antivirus.
3. Go to Internet Security Software Suites Downloads for Windows - CNET Download.com and download the trial version of Kaspersky Internet Security.
2. Copy the downloaded files onto a CD.
3. Install and run these software packages from the CD into the infected computer, in the sequence they were downloaded.
4. Run all three repeatedly until no more viruses are detected.* This is necessary because no single tool will catch everything, and often rootkits will let decoys be removed while remaining on the computer.
5. ALSO: Check the Task Manager for any strange things running.* This is a signal that the computer isn't clean yet.
6. If there's a persistent problem, try using other anti-virus software packages available from the download pages.* Repeat the procedure above until you're satisfied that the computer is clean.* Dave warns that it typically takes 1 - 2 weeks to run enough scans to thoroughly clean the computer.
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GOOD LUCK!!!!

****** If you can live without the data on the computer, reformatting is your best bet.* Wipe it totally clean and then reinstall everything from the operating system on up....
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If you must have the data, the problem you'll face if you try to transfer the files is that any attempt to do so is likely to transfer rootkits as well.* Rootkits don't infect the files, but instead crawl into any memory system you attach to the computer, such as a thumb drive.* When I asked Dave about moving files onto a CD or by email, he didn't give me a straight answer, probably because he didn't know from experience and it wasn't discussed in any literature he read.* If you want to experiment with either of those ideas, go for it but be very careful, checking the destination computer for infection (such as strange tasks running on the task manager).
However, before you do anything like that, remember that Dave faced this same question when he was cleaning up those infected computers and he chose to stick with the anti-virus method rather than transferring files.* That should tell you something.....


found more to add to the arsenal...
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SUPERAntiSpyware - Downloads
and another..
MediaFire - Space for your documents, photos, videos, and music.

if you can't get get to the internet, can't run your AV's normally and your 'puter is really acting funky have this on hand in case that day arrives...
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Download the Viipre to a boot/recovery disk and keep it on hand...
it operates in the DOS theater and believe me....
it takes one very very long time to do it's thing...
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if you can get to safe mode it works well from there...
also use it disconnected from the internet...


remember this the next time your computer locks up
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Found this article..
EarthLink - U.S. News

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
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Jerry, what Stick said. Probably WAY more information than you wanted, but somewhere in those links you will find a solution to your problem. I'm told this happens because you've picked up some type of "hitch-hiker" on your internet browser. That's why a lot of people refuse to use Internet Explorer, and switch to Chrome or Firefox as most virus/spyware is written to take advantage of IE.

Nice links in there Stick!! Now I know what I'm doing for the next few days....

Of course, that's while also watching the playoffs!! Go Wings!!

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Jerry, what Stick said. Probably WAY more information than you wanted, but somewhere in those links you will find a solution to your problem. I'm told this happens because you've picked up some type of "hitch-hiker" on your internet browser. That's why a lot of people refuse to use Internet Explorer, and switch to Chrome or Firefox as most virus/spyware is written to take advantage of IE.

Nice links in there Stick!! Now I know what I'm doing for the next few days....

Of course, that's while also watching the playoffs!! Go Wings!!
Sorry about the "WTMI" thing but in these cases there seems to be no such thing...

Anything you run don't interrupt it...
after you "run" turn your 'puter OFF(don't use the reboot function) for a minuet or two before booting back up to give the computer time to de-energize...
do this for each individual run...
always disconnect from the net while you do the "runs"..
make sure your computer can't go into "sleep" mode while the runs are in progress...
Vipre can take a lot of hours as in many for a complete first time run...
I would run CCleaner first... You'll be surprise/amazed/irked at what IE is doing behind the scenes.. Follow the prompts...
Run "cleaner' at least three times... then do the registry the same...
Look into tools and read every line... I believe you will tons of shid that you had no idea was on your computer or how it got there...
I prefer Firefox and stay as far away from anything MS or Google..
Firefox has a very impressive collection of add ons to help you keep the trash out... MS/Google phones home way too much and if you read their license agreements by using their software you authorize them to "mine" your computer for any information they have a "market" for...


This story is from the NEW YORK TIMES website......
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How to Muddy Your Tracks on the Internet
By KATE MURPHY
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Legal and technology researchers estimate that it would take about a month for Internet users to read the privacy policies of all the Web sites they visit in a year. So in the interest of time, here is the deal: You know that dream where you suddenly realize you’re stark naked? You’re living it whenever you open your browser.

There are no secrets online. That emotional e-mail you sent to your ex, the illness you searched for in a fit of hypochondria, those hours spent watching kitten videos (you can take that as a euphemism if the kitten fits) — can all be gathered to create a defining profile of you.
Your information can then be stored, analyzed, indexed and sold as a commodity to data brokers who in turn might sell it to advertisers, employers, health insurers or credit rating agencies.
And while it’s probably impossible to cloak your online activities fully, you can take steps to do the technological equivalent of throwing on a pair of boxers and a T-shirt. Some of these measures are quite easy and many are free. Of course, the more effort and money you expend, the more concealed you are. The trick is to find the right balance between cost, convenience and privacy.
Before you can thwart the snoopers, you have to know who they are. There are hackers hanging around Wi-Fi hot spots, to be sure. But security experts and privacy advocates said more worrisome were Internet service providers, search engine operators, e-mail suppliers and Web site administrators — particularly if a single entity acts in more than one capacity, like Google, Yahoo, Facebook and AOL. This means they can easily collect and cross-reference your data, that is, match your e-mails with your browsing history, as well as figure out your location and identify all the devices you use to connect to the Internet.
“The worst part is they sell this extremely creepy intrusion as a great boon to your life because they can tailor services to your needs,” said Paul Ohm, an associate professor at the University of Colorado Law School in Boulder who specializes in information privacy and computer crime. “But do most people want to give that much away? No.”
He advised logging off sites like Google and Facebook as soon as practicably possible and not using the same provider for multiple functions if you can help it. “If you search on Google, maybe you don’t want to use Gmail for your e-mail,” he said.
If you do not want the content of your e-mail messages examined or analyzed at all, you may want to consider lesser-known free services like HushMail, RiseUp and Zoho, which promote no-snooping policies. Or register your own domain with an associated e-mail address through services like Hover or BlueHost, which cost $55 to $85 a year. You get not only the company’s assurance of privacy but also an address unlike anyone else’s, like [email protected].
Or you can forgo trusting others with your e-mail correspondence altogether and set up your own mail server. It is an option that is not just for the paranoid, according to Sam Harrelson, a middle-school teacher and self-described technology aficionado in Ashville, N.C., who switched to using his own mail server this year using a $49.99 OS X Server and $30 SpamSieve software to eliminate junk mail.
“The topic of privacy policies and what lies ahead for our digital footprints is especially fascinating and pertinent for me, since I work with 13- and 14-year-olds who are just beginning to dabble with services such as Gmail and all of Google’s apps, as well as Facebook, Instagram, social gaming,” he said. “I have nothing to hide, but I’m uncomfortable with what we give away.”
But even with your own mail server, Google will still have the e-mails you exchange with friends or colleagues with Gmail accounts, said Peter Eckersley of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights advocacy group in San Francisco. “You’re less exposed,” he said. “But you can’t totally escape.”
Another shrouding tactic is to use the search engine DuckDuckGo, which distinguishes itself with a “We do not track or bubble you!” policy. Bubbling is the filtering of search results based on your search history. (Bubbling also means you are less likely to see opposing points of view or be exposed to something fresh and new.)
Regardless of which search engine you use, security experts recommend that you turn on your browser’s “private mode,” usually found under Preferences, Tools or Settings. When this mode is activated, tracking cookies are deleted once you close your browser, which “essentially wipes clean your history,” said Jeremiah Grossman, chief technology officer with WhiteHat Security, an online security consulting firm in Santa Clara, Calif.
He warned, however, that private mode does nothing to conceal your I.P. address, a unique number that identifies your entry or access point to the Internet. So Web sites may not know your browsing history, but they will probably know who you are and where you are as well as when and how long you viewed their pages.
Shielding your I.P. address is possible by connecting to what is called a virtual private network, or V.P.N., such as those offered by WiTopia, PrivateVPN and StrongVPN. These services, whose prices price from $40 to $90 a year, route your data stream to what is called a proxy server, where it is stripped of your I.P. address before it is sent on to its destination. This obscures your identity not only from Web sites but also from your Internet service provider.
Moreover, these services encrypt data traveling to and from their servers so it looks like gibberish to anyone who might be monitoring wireless networks in places like coffee shops, airports and hotels.
While V.P.N. providers generally have strict privacy policies, Moxie Marlinspike, an independent security researcher and software developer in San Francisco, said, “It’s better to trust the design of the system rather than an organization.” In that case, there is Tor, a free service with 36 million users that was originally developed to conceal military communications. Tor encrypts your data stream and bounces it through a series of proxy servers so no single entity knows the source of the data or whence it came. The only drawback is that with all that bouncing around, it is very S-L-O-W.
Free browser add-ons that increase privacy and yet will not interrupt your work flow include Ghostery and Do Not Track Plus, which prevent Web sites from relaying information about you and your visit to tracking companies. These add-ons also name the companies that were blocked from receiving your data (one social network, five advertising companies and six data brokers on a recent visit to CNN.com), which is instructive in itself.
“Companies like Google are creating these enormous databases using your personal information,” said Paul Hill, senior consultant with SystemExperts, a network security company in Sudbury, Mass. “They may have the best of intentions now, but who knows what they will look like 20 years from now, and by then it will be too late to take it all back.”

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If only new layers hadn't been added....

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The bold print giveth

the small print taketh away..

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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Or hire a competent IT techie to do what needs to be done.
$60/hr is a bargain from where I sit. Stick's description is WHY these guys deserve the big bucks...
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