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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 09-30-2013, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
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Took my College Placement Test (CPT) this morning. I was a little nervous and in trying to get things going, I rushed into it. I should have studied. Most of it I scored 100 or over, except for the specific College level math. When they started talking cosigns, tangents and such, I went blank. It has been over 30 years since I've taken a math test. I should not have rushed into it. I get a re-test. Time to study.

Last Thursday I dropped off my pickup at the dealer. They called and told me that to fix it would be $1400 and it would be done this morning... After taking my test, I checked at the dealer, paid for it and picked up the key. They said it ran great and started fine. I then dropped off the 1/2 ton truck I was driving at home and then took the bus to the town with the dealer and hobbled back to the dealership.

Diesel 1 ton. Glow plug "Warm-up" light lit up and went off, rolled over for about 60 seconds... but didn't catch. Tried again... second time it caught but took awhile to gain power and clear the excess fuel (white smoke.) I let it warm up. Put it In gear... It wouldn't move in drive nor in reverse. Acted like the brakes were locked up tight. Defeat.

Yes, the day continued. I hobbled back into the dealership. The Service Manager had someone confirm it. He said they drove it into the shop, test drove it after being fixed (and doing a few recall things to it) and then parked it... He took back the key to work on it tomorrow and gave me their loaner.

It's been a trying day. Have to make sawdust. Need to change my mood before Sharon gets home. You know, I was going to just have Sharon take me back there after she got off // after they were closed up. I'm glad I didn't wait until then!

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I remember those terms...cosign, tangent but don't have a clue about what they are. Good for you for taking the test. It will be good experience for the next one and you can ace that one.
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This might be one of your best sources to study. Trigonometric functions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Trig functions are just one side divided by another. You just have to remember which sides go where in the equation. You can also think of it as rise, run, and slope(hypotenuse) if that is easier. I hope tomorrow is a better day for you.

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Reminds me of when I started an accountancy diploma course.

Every one in the class was fresh out of High School, except me (40+) and another guy in his 30s.

First lesson, a formula went on the board and we both put our hand up.

We did not know what the symbol was on the board.

It was Sigma.........LOL

That day, however, was not as bad as yours.

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Just remember that waking up alive means that it is a good day, everything else is just details to be dealt with. N
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Default Trig

Disclaimer: I know no trig. I have a few equations in a spreadsheet that were reversed engineered for correctness.
I only know the website above does a good job of presenting.

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Update- (At least on the truck...)

I went to pick it up yesterday, it had to stay. I got in and the truck wouldn't go over 20 mph. Had the service manager drive it. He agreed something was wrong. (duh)

Well, seems that it sat long enough, (even though it had full tanks,) that is had algae in the fuel. They are going to drain the tanks, drop them, clean them and flush the system. Wondering what this bill is going to look like...

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What a frustration that you have to trust these guy's and what they say is the truth...
I know the feelin. We had an old Ford Transit. We took it to the shop to fix the brakes. Let me remind you it was a Transit not a Lamborgini Diabolo The repairguy took 700e for the job. I was quite diabolo when we fetched the car and got the bill. We havn't used him since.


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Update on my truck-

I have lost confidence in that Ford Dealer. I don't think they know what they are doing.

Like I said, it's been there a week. I've already paid them $1400. They they said it was fixed... which it wasn't and couldn't have made it home under it's own power.

Wednesday, they said they would look at it again and thought it was maybe algae in the fuel tanks, would have to drain them, pull them to clean them out. They didn't call me Thursday, so I had to call them again. They said yes it was algae. They hadn't drained the fuel yet. I called Friday. They said the mechanic working on it went home sick.

I called yesterday and they told me they would check and call me right back. (They didn't.)

I called today. They said that I needed the tanks drained and cleaned... and all the injectors replaced. I asked him what the estimate was. They said they had to call me back (didn't prepare one.) They called back and said $4000, that the injectors were $300 each.

I don't owe them anything. They didn't actually do any additional work and I already paid for a "diagnosis..." Which I feel they are guessing at. I paid for them to use their laptop which they said they corrected everything on and was running fine, which it was not. They said they didn't know anyone who cleaned injectors (which I know a few) who they could send out to. They are saying over $2400 for just the injectors.

I can get a rebuilt set of performance high volume injectors for less than what they are asking for a stock set. I could have done that when I changed the glow plugs, but didn't know I needed something additional at the time. It has a big exhaust and a bigger turbo, high volume injectors would fit right in with the other mods and would be cheaper than new stock parts...

$4000 is just too much for me. I'm on disability. So I'm going to pick it up and limp it home, save up money and take my time.

It is frustrating that they had the tools there to easily find out what was going on and... Like I said, I've lost faith in that dealership.

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Contact the regional office for Ford Motor Company. This should be in the back of your owner's manual. Ask for the VP in charge of service work. Tell them of the problem and how the dealer has treated you. My father and I, on separate occasions have gone to the top (couple of times to the president of the company) and bypassed the morons at the local level.

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