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Hi All some opinions please, I am thinking of buying a mortising machine but not sure which way to go a chain or chisel machine some input would be most welcome many thanks carl.

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Chain Mortiser's are really 'Chain & Chisel' the chain is great to get rid of the waste but not good at cleaning up the corners hence the need for the chisel, we would use the chisel to do the square cut at the end of each mortise and then use the chisel to clean up between the two square end cuts, the chain is also good if you were doing through mortises, the thing is that they are good but you need to be doing a lot of work to justify having one, like commercially making house doors where you need to do a lot of mortises in a lot of door styles, if you are just doing a few mortises then make a jig and cut them with a router as it will cut perfect mortises and do round corners with square bottoms and do the mortise as deep as you want, do through mortises or not, there not really a hobby machine, unless you have a lot of work for it that is, and even if you do have many mortises do do then you could do them just as fast with a router if you made a very nice jig, I am very confident that I could do mortises just as quick with a router as with a Chain and Chisel Mortiser as I would make a very nice jig if I had a lot to do. So unless you are rolling in cash and you cannot think of enough ways top spend it, then make a nice jig and use a router. Routers are great as they make such a howling noise that you can't hear the phone ring. If you want to buy a machine that uses a router to do the mortise as well as a round end tennon then look at the aluminum Pantarouter made by the Forum Member called 'Samurai', you can also see it at woodgears.ca NGM

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I bought a Shop Fox 2or3 years ago . I went to the Grizzly store in Missouri to buy a Grizzly Mortiser and they had the Shop Fox the too-no contest! It was reasonably priced and has 3/4 horse power and runs 3450 rpm. I'm not endorsing Shop Fox but it works well for me.
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Ever thought about Festool Domino.

Makes mortise with more speed and practicality.

You can make the Dominů.
make your own dominos

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Carl.
Ever thought about Festool Domino.

Makes mortise with more speed and practicality.

You can make the Dominů.
make your own dominos

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Festool Domino 700 vs Multi-Router + Mortising Machine - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
At five times the cost. Not an option for some.

I got my Craftsman HCM on clearance for about $140 or so. Don't use it a lot, but it's pretty good at what it does. I may add the Domino at some point when I'm rich and famous.

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Hey Carl--What type of wood and how big are you looking to mortise? I have a Jet HCM (Craigslist, $100 with new chisels), and it's fine for 1/2" mortises to 1 1/2" deep in ash and oak--for me as a hobbyist. For me, I'd probably only consider a chain mortise if I was taking up timber frame construction. Unless--of course--a great deal showed up somewhere!!

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I bought a Delta attachment for a drill press, does 1/4, 5/16, 3/8, and 1/2 inch wide mortices. It only cost me around $65 on sale. It isn't something I use every day and since I already had the drill press it doesn't take up any extra floor or bench space when I'm not using it. At $65 it was about $400 cheaper than a dedicated morticer.

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Hi Chuck I have landed a contract to supply doors and frames for a housing project hence the interest in the mortise machine, but also looking at buying a production shop that is facing for closure . and would like to keep the staff as work is very scarce at this point in time. regards carl

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At five times the cost. Not an option for some.

I got my Craftsman HCM on clearance for about $140 or so. Don't use it a lot, but it's pretty good at what it does. I may add the Domino at some point when I'm rich and famous.
I also think expensive but is worth every cent I can guarantee.
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Carl, if you have a lot of work for it then it is probably worth it and the dedicated morticers also usually do 5/8". As I pointed out in another thread, I have a Taiwanese planer and I have identified a minimum of 3 other identical machines with different nameplates on them. Morticers may be the same unless hi-end.

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