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Well at least now we know why Malaysian Airlines played fast and loose with the truth, the last two weeks!
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Let the lawsuits begin!
The Malaysian Airlines CEO belongs in a cell, whether or not the batteries are implicated. Who in their right mind ships a potentially disastrous product in a passenger flight?!
They need to be banned from air-transport. Period.
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Hi Dan.

Your post, whilst appearing factual, only adds to the speculation as to the cause of the disappearance of the aircraft and its ultimate location.

There could well be some truth in the report you posted.

There are so many possibilities being bandied about at the moment

No one will know for sure until some remains or the voice and data recorders are located.

I could add my 'theory', that the US government knows exactly where it landed/crashed. If their satellites can pick up a rocket launched anywhere in the world and track it, they would have no difficulty in tracking a slower moving large aircraft.

My 'theory' is that the US government does not want to disclose this capability.....

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James,; there have been several very nasty airplane incidents involving Li-ion batteries. The point I was getting at was that the CEO kept that cargo info secret for what, two weeks?
Not to mention all the data as to the final info tracking the plane. If there were survivors, they were doomed by all this secretive cr*p.
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...but I think there's enough evidence to ban their shipment by air, never mind install them in planes.
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Hi Dan,

I agree 100% with you thoughts on transporting certain items by air - should not be allowed.

My comment was more in line with the fact that, if the batteries were on board, they MAY have nothing to do with the disappearance of the aircraft, that's all.

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Judging from the TV coverage, there hasn't been an "expert" who hasn't weighed in yet except the two who might have the answer. Scully and Mulder.

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No problem, James; I knew what you meant. I doubt that we'll ever know what actually happened. I'm just outraged (you might have noticed...) that an Airline would put 'Dangerous Cargo' onto a passenger plane, and when something actually happens act like they knew nothing about it.

Somebody may want to fact check me on this, but I believe there have been 140+/- incidents involving Li ion batteries on aircraft. AIRBUS pulled them out of their aircraft and went back to Ni Cad. In spite of Boeing's problems, I believe they still use them on-board.
But carrying them as cargo?!
Incidentally the Insurance carriers have been rushing claims through in the past few days...do you suppose they heard about the cargo and wanted claimants to sign off before they found out?
The American legal system calls that Reckless Endangerment
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US lawyers must be lining up to go after Boeing.
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I can only pray for the many lives lost, and wait to see if the cause is ever found.

I tend to follow the argument that something rendered the crew and passengers unconscious, after the course change, and the plane flew on auto pilot until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the ocean.

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What would cause a lithium battery or batteries to explode when not in service? Maybe altitude? Can't imagine that it got that hot in the cargo hold.
Not discounting the possibility, just wondering why they would explode?

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Heck, remember when the plane went down in a swamp a decade or two back? They were able to locate it under water when it couldn't even be seen by eye flying over it.

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Hi Dan.

Your post, whilst appearing factual, only adds to the speculation as to the cause of the disappearance of the aircraft and its ultimate location.

There could well be some truth in the report you posted.

There are so many possibilities being bandied about at the moment

No one will know for sure until some remains or the voice and data recorders are located.

I could add my 'theory', that the US government knows exactly where it landed/crashed. If their satellites can pick up a rocket launched anywhere in the world and track it, they would have no difficulty in tracking a slower moving large aircraft.

My 'theory' is that the US government does not want to disclose this capability.....

The reason I have what you want is, I never lent it out before.

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The media tends to stir this sort of thing up. The more they stir the more people watch, the more money they make. I read something that was very appropriate for this instance. People that stir the poop pot should have to lick the spoon. Not sure if poop was the word they used.

Could Li-ion batteries be what caused problems for Amelia Earhart? Inquiring minds want to know.
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