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Harry,

I have been reading your terrorist plot about trying to convert all of us 6' 4" Up Aboves by you Short Down Unders to the metric system. This got me to thinking that perhaps you should hold a contest (competition) and offer metric rules and tapes as prizes to the losers since they are the ones who need these items most to do a better job. I am most sure I could win this kind of contest hands down.

So.... what do you say? Isn't this a great idea? I'm sure you will jump at the chance and you don't even have to thank me for coming up with it.


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Harry,

I have been reading your terrorist plot about trying to convert all of us 6' 4" Up Aboves by you Short Down Unders to the metric system. This got me to thinking that perhaps you should hold a contest (competition) and offer metric rules and tapes as prizes to the losers since they are the ones who need these items most to do a better job. I am most sure I could win this kind of contest hands down.

So.... what do you say? Isn't this a great idea? I'm sure you will jump at the chance and you don't even have to thank me for coming up with it.


I just could not resist so don't buy airline tickets just to come whip my behind
YES!!

I think I could handle that type of contest!!

Harry, when does it start?!

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"I just could not resist so don't buy airline tickets just to come whip my behind"


I won't Bob, but I might just ask my 6'3" grandson to do it on my behalf.
On a serious note Bob, don't you really see the advantages of all woodworkers going metric. I'm sure you must remember the magnificent cabinet doors that Greg made and just wait to see the balloon clocks he's working on. Any template can be designed with ease using the metric system. Come on Bob make it the six of us, just imagine if all 12,000 members of just THIS forum petitioned the manufactures, you would be able to buy metric cutters at you're local grocery store.

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Harry,

Your grandson sounds like he is still a growing boy

Hey, I am with you on the metrics idea all the way. I have been trying to learn, but at my age it is not an easy task I am working on a box right now designed by Roger Gifkins and all his measurements were in metric, you should see the mess I made of that one I'm not a quiter though and will keep trying until I succeed

On a side note, I have been visiting Tom's web site and gain some understanding of the template guide method of routing. You upside down folks sure do some nice work with that process and I need to be thinking about getting my feet wet.
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Bob, were you using metric measurements and imperial cutters? if so I'm not surprised that you got into trouble. Sometimes I need a cutter or twist drill that is in-between standard metric sizes so I get out my imperial drills/cutters and vernier and always find one that's just right.

I'm hopeful that when Tom returns from holiday I may persuade him to re-join the forum and really get things moving. In the meantime Bob, keep studying Tom's sticky, it will be well worth the effort, just ask Greg.

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I don't think too much about it myself until I am in a predicament like Bob was in and then I have to sit down and think about it. Personally I don't care if it was Metric or Imperial... just make one way of doing it so we can all have one set of drill bits, rulers, wrenches, sockets and a myriad of items that we have to buy in both Imperial and Metric sizes.

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Just my 2 cents about Metric or Imperial

It's no big deal anymore ,,,, evey ruler I get now days has both, ever time I work on a new car (made after 1989) I always pickup the 15mm socket or wrench the same thing for Allen hex key sets, it's just the way it is and it's not big deal anymore the states is moving more and more over to the metric system but I don't think it will take over for a LONG,LONG time just to many things are in/under the Imperial system...
It's like a pop can, they show both on the can because it is a small,small world
Plus it's true for many manuals now days they also show both and in 3 languages, for the same ,,,,,small ,small world

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I heard somewhere the reason why the metric system was invented was for people who were bad at math and had to count on their fingers and toes. With all the croc's and land mines in the world we are lucky we don't have a new system counting in five's.
To be serious, I don't think anybody really has a problem with any of the measuring systems. They are all simple enough, the problem comes in when there isn't a world standard. Take drills for example: I can not think of any good reason (other than marketing) why there should be fractional, letter, number and metric drill bits. Think of the money we could all save if there was only one standard. At least we don't use cubit's anymore. What would Noah do today?

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Mike,

Ah yes.... drill bits.

Just yesterday I was drilling out 1/2" holes for storing my router bits and they were just too snug for my liking. Of course the next size was going to be too big as always. Now to me 1/2" should be 1/2 inch, but for some reason in this case it was not and was simply too snug. All I can can say is thank goodness for the Dremel tool to give those holes a little wiggle room.
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Bob, I just checked a 1/2" drill and it measured 0.495" compared to a 13mm one which was 0.508" and that would have done the job nicely. This in fact illustrates my earlier post on this matter. Cheers for now.

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