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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-05-2008, 07:27 PM Thread Starter
 
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has anyone used the veritas router insert from (lee valley), i'm asking about the phenolic one for $38.00 not the fancy one. i figured round no sag but it's only 1/4" thick. i have a 9 1/4" x 11 3/4" x 3/8" phenolic insert from woodpecker but after a year it sags in the middle. i added shims and tried screwing it down which worked for awhile but really doesn't work for me. can anybody give me a heads up on the veritas.

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Hi Big Guy

I don't have one but I almost did ...

I like to try new things out, and I almost sent off for one then I took a hard look at it and I did back off..because

If you look at it hard, only one type of router will work with it...take a hard look at the router they have installed no base to speak about on the router they are using in the picture ,almost looks like a trim router base open on one side, not the norm for a 1 1/2 HP to 3 1/4 HP router, then it comes to the small hole in the center of the mounting base plate, then note how close it is to the edge of the router table edge, it looks like it needs to be that way in order to get the router out of the table..then it looks like the router motor must be down all the way down to get it out...
I did make one for a router table I have but it was for a trim router (Colt) that has a small OD on the router motor with no handles...round mounting plates work great, just like a pipe there are stronger and have a less chance of pulling out of shape, the down presser is equal all the way around the circle..pie are square but router mounting plates can be round

Think why they use round ones on the base of routers

Just one more small note,,,look at the screw hole pattern to mount the router to the plate, that's the norm for many trim routers.then look at the inside edge (lip) you will see a screw hole to lock the plate in place once it's in the top, it will hold one time but you know like I do a hole that's that close to the edge will not hold in plywood/MDF it would take a metal device to hold it down in place (metal clip) 1/2 turn cam type device...


But this is just my 2 cents, I hope someone has got one a gave it a shot..


http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...000,51208&ap=1

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hi members

has anyone used the veritas router insert from (lee valley), i'm asking about the phenolic one for $38.00 not the fancy one. i figured round no sag but it's only 1/4" thick. i have a 9 1/4" x 11 3/4" x 3/8" phenolic insert from woodpecker but after a year it sags in the middle. i added shims and tried screwing it down which worked for awhile but really doesn't work for me. can anybody give me a heads up on the veritas.

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They advertise using the insert for freehand routing, but you can't see through it.

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I am in the same boat. I need to choose between the Rockler Plate or the Veritas plate. I can't seem to make up my mind. There are still a few points on the Veritas system that confuse me. The Rockler seems fairly simple. I did find this site where someone is mounting a 2.25 hp Triton using the Veritas system. oops, can't post links yet... too bad it's pretty informative.
It helps with some of the questions, but not all. Am I correct in reading that with the Veritas plate, you are limited to 1 1/2" bits? Anyone at all using this system?

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Hey Guys:
I just purchased that Veritas Plate which I installed in my second shop-built (SMALL) Router Table. Be aware that you must drill holes in it to fit YOUR particular router and then countersink the bolts. Also, it is critical to line up the router bit so it is centered in the plate's hole. Since the router and plate must be tilted to remove from the bottom of the table, make sure there is enough room from the back to the front of the router table to facilitate this operation. I ordered this model because I wanted to use the 1 3/4" bushings with the plate. It is pre-drilled for these. I believe Porter Cable and most other manufacturers only provide 1 1/2" Bushing Holes. My particular router is a Ryobi 175 with fairly large handles and only 2 holes to attach it to the plate and it works great. Also there is a locking bolt/cam to prevent the plate from turning while mounted in the table. The instructions were easy to follow and I took my time in cutting out the hole in the table top, etc. My larger shop-built table has the more expensive Veritas Steel Plate in it and I find both are more than adequate for my needs.

Would I buy another $48.00 Plate? YOU BET!
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This one works good for a lot less money.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=94331

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hi Mike,

does the pc style guides and bushings fit this plate?
my only problem is the hf i go to doesnt stock them i will have to order it when i get one.

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HI levon

Just a butt in post,, it will take on both types with just a little bit of rework

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does the pc style guides and bushings fit this plate?
my only problem is the hf i go to doesnt stock them i will have to order it when i get one.



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great illustration bobj, but im a little unclear about using the 1 3/16 guide after drilling the ring. do you then mount it in the 1 1/2 guide?

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Hi levon

Once it's drilled out that's it ,, it will only take on the 1 1/2" size but if you want to use the 1 3/16" a replacement snap in ring can be had from HF cheap..but I don't know why you would want to do that.. the 1 1/2" brass guides are almost the same price, if I recall 22.oo dollars per. set..and most are just a 1/4" tall unlike the 1 3/16 PC type.

The bigger guides will let you use the bigger bits..like a 1/2 " round over that is a bigger OD bit the norm..


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