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Well, my 5 year old PC disk bit the dust and wanted to replace it with a super quiet system. I decided to build my own since I couldn't find what I wanted at the right price. It was pretty easy and came out really nice but I got scammed on the Windows 10 install disc.

Basically, the activation code was blocked by MS. This was from an Amazon affiliate and Amazon seems to be willing to make good on it but I had to go and purchase the activation code directly from MS. Plus the vendor was a real slow shipper. I left some blistering feedback.

I'm not sure how I could have avoided this but going though Amazon protected me.

Alls well that ends well but it was pretty much a goat rodeo.

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Well, my 5 year old PC disk bit the dust and wanted to replace it with a super quiet system. I decided to build my own since I couldn't find what I wanted at the right price. It was pretty easy and came out really nice but I got scammed on the Windows 10 install disc.

Basically, the activation code was blocked by MS. This was from an Amazon affiliate and Amazon seems to be willing to make good on it but I had to go and purchase the activation code directly from MS. Plus the vendor was a real slow shipper. I left some blistering feedback.

I'm not sure how I could have avoided this but going though Amazon protected me.

Alls well that ends well but it was pretty much a goat rodeo.
Did they offer up some excuse...sorry, I mean reason...as to why your activation code was blocked in the first place?

Love the "Goat Rodeo" expression!

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No, they were silent. The error code from MS was "The specific product code has been blocked". Pretty explicit. Also, the activation code was on a sticker from MS that said "this is not a COA" (cert of authenticity). Basically, the product was missing the COA that gets affixed to your PC.

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I would worry that some uncertified code was loaded. I would fine a real disc and reinstall using the format method so everything gets formatted over on the hardrive. Hard to find bugs when they are loaded in the base code.
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Hi,

I agree with coxhaus. I've been building my own PC's for many years. If you purchased Windows 10 from a 3rd party vendor (on Amazon), and it was flagged as a COA, then it more than likely was a disk that was from a bundled PC. So they just took the disk and sold it separately, thus the conflict. But I too would be concerned about a pirated disk and any malware or crapware that it might have brought with it. Hope you have a good anti-virus and malware checker...

If your old (dead) PC had Win 7, or 8 on it, then you should be able to get a free upgrade to Win10. You can download the whole build from MS.

good luck

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Some CDs are marked for business use, (builders) there are many options offered, (or used to be) by MS. My 1st comp was an IBM from my parents when they up'd to a gateway in late 90s, win 95, no CD, there was supposed to be a recovery disk but they had no idea where it was. In early 98 bought a win 98 up grade disk and loaded it. Months later said disk died, (3 gb disk ... WOW). I bought a new disk and tried to load it, it wouldn't, I called MS, (pre internet our house) explained the problem and asked why I was having an issue. I was told that the upgrade version is the full version of windows plus 1 extra file, this file searches for an existing copy of windows, if it doesn't find one, it closes. They gave me a new key and the CD worked. Fall 98 got internet

A couple yrs later my parents on their 3rd or 4th comp asked me if I wanted them. I took them figuring I could add a 2nd comp in the kids room. I scavenged and combined parts from both to build a slightly faster pile but the CD that they got from the builder wouldn't work. I was told by a couple people, apparently (builder) had license on the key code to use it on builds but it was no longer valid, for (whatever reason). So I cloned the win 98 "C" from my pile, (old disk copy) and stuck it into the kids pile, (99/00) prior to MS's later pirating thingy, (multiple comp licensing?) and said to hell with it. Later in 00 I added the internet to the kids room to free up the living room pile, (school junk) and never heard a peep from MS.

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Actually, it's much more complex than all that. Microsoft keeps changing the rules with respect to system builders and that's what I've run into. For Win 10 on a new install, you HAVE to use the retail version. That's why they disallowed the activation code. But even so, the copy I bought should have had the COA. I don't mind paying them for their work - it takes a lot of money to make a really mediocre operating system...

By the way, I had already upgraded my old/dead PC to Win 10. At first, I didn't like it over 7 but as I got used to it became quite a fan. It's got some quirks but works surprisingly well and has lots of nice little touches. Off course all bets are off when your disk goes biff-o-rama. So, thought I'd just jump straight to win 10. Hindsight is 2020 though.

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Hi,

I agree with coxhaus. I've been building my own PC's for many years. If you purchased Windows 10 from a 3rd party vendor (on Amazon), and it was flagged as a COA, then it more than likely was a disk that was from a bundled PC. So they just took the disk and sold it separately, thus the conflict. But I too would be concerned about a pirated disk and any malware or crapware that it might have brought with it. Hope you have a good anti-virus and malware checker...

If your old (dead) PC had Win 7, or 8 on it, then you should be able to get a free upgrade to Win10. You can download the whole build from MS.

good luck

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I think the disc itself is legit. It has all the antipiracy stuff. It's just missing the COA. And as I posted above, use for system builders is outside of the MS rules. They sold it knowing that it wasn't usable.

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Just ordered my new power PC with Win7 Pro. Now waiting 10-14 days for it to be sent. I know the company that are building it, this current PC was from them 8 years ago. I've upgraded over time but now tech has moved on so much and I really can't be bothered working out how SSD's are configured, and which components are compatible with others. So I customised one of their gaming machines and let them do the build. Should last me at least another 8 years.

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sounds like fun angie. I got a 250 GB SSD and large app start up is amazingly fast. SU used to take about 10 seconds to become usable. Now, it takes about 1 sec. Everything else is similarly fast. Snappy performance. If you have another drive, you might want to put photos, documents, music and so on there. I'm saving the ssd for apps.

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