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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-14-2020, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Rockler has some Rail and Stile bit set for sale. The only set I have came with the raised panel bit. I want to add to my choices for panels but any suggestions on what shape to go with what set?

I enjoy the tech side of wood working. Unfortunately I don't have much sense of art (just ask my wife).

I have the ogee panel bit but am looking at the round edge or bead-in sets of rail/stile. So any rule of thumb as to what panel bit would look good with them?

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It is all personal coice on what profile you like best. I prefer the simple profiles best, Mission and Shaker, I do have a fairly common Ogee set, but have never used it. Don't like it all that much.

What I do want to suggest is that you make certain that your bit set has matched shank lengths. You set the first bit and the rest cut correctly without any further adjustment. These are matched bit sets. Mine are all Sommerfeld sets, but just as good are the Freud matched bit sets. If the Rockler bits are NOT matched, you get to fiddle and adjust to get a perfect alignment.

If the Rockler bits are matched sets, they should be OK. Bit sets are not cheap and so there's no point is scrimping on them. To make them match, you want to drop a half inch grommet into the collet so they all bottom on the grommet. Notice that's grommet, not O-ring.

You might want to look for YouTube videos by Marc Sommerfeld where he demonstrates door making. His company sells the products he uses, but he's a very experienced cabinet maker and his technique works great for any kind of bit. His company also sells star shaped EasySet jigs, yellow for his bits, red for Freud. These jigs cover the major profiles and let you set the height for the first bit in a set, and the rest match from there. The jigs also account for the exact thickness of your stock. I LIKE em. Each of the eight legs fit a specific bit. They're $30, cheap.

I suggest you peruse the online catalogs for both Freud and Sommerfeld to choose the next profile in your collection.

I also have a glass door door making set, which is interesting because you are really building a display case that keeps the dust out.

Here's a link to Freud's door making sets: https://freudtools.com/explore/route...outer-bit-sets

Here's the Sommerfeld link: https://sommerfeldtools.com/professi...outer-bit-sets

I keep the Sommerfeld catalog on hand so I can see what I'm thinking of doing. I don't think there is a nickle's worth of difference between similar sets from each maker. Both are top quality. Don't have other brands, so I can't really comment on them.
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Hello Charlie...
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panel cutters come in a hoard of sizes and shapes..
as for what fits what... the cuts are adjustabl to some degree...

https://www.freudtools.com/explore/r...w/raised-panel
https://www.freudtools.com/explore/r...th-backcutters
https://www.freudtools.com/explore/r...-stile-profile

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I have a couple of Rockler stile and rail bits. They do an adequate job if your material is 3/4". Now most cabinet doors are made of 3/4" material but if you want to do thicker then I would recommend the Frued Premiere Bits. They have quite a system so you can make long tenons for large/heavy doors. Double sided doors and glass inserts. The Frued bits cost a bit more than Rockler but they have a lot more potential. But if you are going to make standard 3/4" doors then the Rockler bits are good. Personally I do not like raised panels and almost always put in plywood panels that are flat. The raised panel door is quite heavy so if you use raised panels try to get soft close hinges. There is nothing more annoying than trying to sleep and someone in the kitchen slamming cabinet doors.
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Generally they come in matched sets with beveled cope and stile with bevel panel bit, rounded cope and stile with cove style panel bit, and ogee with ogee panel bit.

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