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I'm a beginner. Found this forum trying to chose my first router.
Actually a need to make a groove 3/8 wide and 3/4 deep in oak.
Hope to get help from gurus.

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Greetings Andrey and welcome to the router forum, glad to have you with us. We have several members from our northern neighbor I am sure they will be along soon to say howdy.

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Welcome to the forum Andrey. We hope you enjoy the time you spend with us.
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Actually a need to make a groove 3/8 wide and 3/4 deep in oak.Andrey
Hi Andrey:

table saw - multiple passes until you have the width you want
table saw with dado blade - one pass
router with flat bottom bit 3/8" wide using your straight edge guide with a stick of wood added to give it more support
router mounted in a table with the bit pointing up used with a fence and maybe featherboards
rabbeting plane or small shoulder plane used with supplementary fence to keep the cut straight
last resort -- sharp knife and a sharp chisel.

Practice any of the above before committing to cutting the rabbet in your workpiece.

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Thank you Ron,

Handheld router! - It's why I'm here. But how powerful router do I need, what speed - actually I'm scary to chip a board. And I understand that training is everything, but I can train only on spruce (and this is a quite different song than oak).
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Thank you Ron,

Handheld router! - It's why I'm here. But how powerful router do I need, what speed - actually I'm scary to chip a board. And I understand that training is everything, but I can train only on spruce (and this is a quite different song than oak).
Thanks again.
Hi Andrey:

Ok. If you were going to be doing other work in oak over the years, I would definitely opt for a >3 HP plunge:

1. ½" chuck
2. 2 wrench collet
3. Variable speed (nice but close to useless <3HP, but mandatory >3HP)
4. plunge base
5. Soft start
6. Light weight but versatile and powerful.
7. 1¾" (1 ½" hole with a " shoulder) brass template guides (ideal but not likely)

This basically describes the Hitachi M12V and the Makita 3612. The Makita is nice right out of the box and requires little or no modification for table use. The Hitachi is my preference only because I couldn't afford the Makita at the time.

There are those that support Porter Cable but I find them wanting in many respects; to wit: fixed speeds, bases that are not compatible to skis or other non-Delta/PorterCable ideas; template guides and inserts that are smaller than optimal.

I would stay away from "house brands" and department store offerings. Parts will become problematic over time. Machines like these don't wear out, they are broken. There is nothing more frustrating that having to buy a new router because some simple, cheap part broke - usually the plastic parts.

Now, Hitachi/Makita are serious machines designed to work all day, every day. If you chose to purchase something lighter, you are purchasing something with much less capability. However, you do not purchase routers, you collect them.

So, whatever you chose, you will probably upgrade later. Now, start digging in this forum and read other threads. Use the search window at the top of every page and start reading.

Go to The Woodworking Channel . Find the videos for "the Router Workshop." Sit down with some popcorn and start watching. Pay attention to the sounds of the router when it's working. Try to tell when they're pushing it or just letting it do its' thing. There are quite a few so be patient and learn.

At any point, return here for direction, council or just plain encouragement.

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Hi Andrey and welcome. Practice in spruce is fine. It's cheap and burns with a nice crackle when you make firewood Whatever router you choose, read the manual, understand the safety precautions, and play SAFE!
When you have had enough spruce practice, PRACTICE again on scrap oak before you make your real cuts so you get the feel of the wood. There is a difference.
Post pictures and ask lots of questions. We love that stuff!

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Thank you, guys, for all warm words
and great advises,
Could you help me "to find my router"
What do think about Triton brand? It looks solid and well made. How difficult to use plunge router instead of fix on 1 1/2" board, because center of gravity. May be it's better to buy portable (2HP) fixed (lighter, easy to use as hand-held) and in future to buy plunge for table routing? Actually my budget for router <$200CAD.
So I'm trying to choose between these:
- CRAFTSMAN® Professional™ Fixed-base Router 2 1/4HP - $150 (Couldn't find who makes it for sears - DeWalt??? )
- CRAFTSMAN®/MD 2-piece Router Combo 1 3/4HP - $150
- Triton (from Rona) Plunge Base Router 13A - 2 1/4 HP (includes guide, templates, circle cutter!!!)- $180
- Or something from Ryobi, B&D, Skil
- Or to go brand store and take Makita/Hitachi - (<$200 - not sure)
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You might try Garage sales in your area. I picked up two Makitas that way plus a bunch of other tools.

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