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I'm a complete newbie to routing well at least the kind you do with wood and not computers. I bought a Freud 1700 for $99 at Lowe's two x-mas's ago and have yet to use it. I just got a table and put it together and bought an aluminum plate for a mount both from MLCS.

Yesterday I dug out the insert plate and I'm working on making sense of it as it doesn't line up with the plate I bought although someone just posted a slightly rotated version of a template that may make more sense.

I've just had some replacement windows put in and although I bought molding to fill the width difference between the old and the new I'm going to need to rout out a bit of wood on the jamb side. So it's going to get it's first use assuming I can get it mounted.

Other than that; well I've been messing around with wood since I was a young kid. Definitely not a fine furniture maker but I've made some shelving and cabinets and the router of course will allow me to add some more interesting features thus leaving the world of the "plain".

In my prior life I was an IT Project Manager mostly for IBM Mainframe projects but after 17 years I had to go on disability. It seems that chronic pain runs in the family and I've been unlucky enough to get it. So for me woodworking when I can afford the wood and have the energy is a way to reduce costs and do a bit of upgrading around my home when I have the energy. The chronic pain comes from my mother side while the wood working comes from my father's father, who was a cabinet maker by trade although he's been dead for many years now I still remember going to visit and he was always so excited to show everyone the templates he had made or some piece of machinery he had created to do a specific function. My grandmother would tell you that he was a dreamer and maybe had he patented some of his designs and equipment I'd be a rich man today but to him it was just about finding the solution to the problem. And having to survive by fixing relatives cabinets during the depression I'm sure was not a good existence especially when getting paid in food instead of money. And of course there were always the disputes over how many pounds of bacon would pay off the work he had done.

I tend to be more of a framing than a detail oriented guy when it comes to projects made from wood but I think the router is going to move me into the finer details at least at some level.

So that's a bit about me and my background. For those of you that have read all this congrats. I can be a bit long-winded.

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Todd...Welcome to the forum; there are many here who can assist you getting what you want to do with a router. Just as a reminder; there is more that can be achieved when the router is held in the plunge mode, with the aid of template guides. Check out the material below.
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Greetings Todd and welcome to the router forum. Thank you for joining us.

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Todd...Welcome to the forum; there are many here who can assist you getting what you want to do with a router. Just as a reminder; there is more that can be achieved when the router is held in the plunge mode, with the aid of template guides. Check out the material below.
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Thanks for the welcome.

I was under the impression that a router is pretty hard to control when using it by hand. Have I been led astray?
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Thanks for the welcome.

I was under the impression that a router is pretty hard to control when using it by hand. Have I been led astray?
Tom is a big fan of using the router in the hand held position. Personally from watching his videos it seems over-complicated, but I'm not really an experienced woodworker .

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Thanks for the warm welcomes from all. I liked the firewood comment. Could it be that they sell wood in lengths that result in the most waste possible? I just bought 10 8' pieces of molding the other day and I got just less than 1/3 waste from each piece unless I want to seam it together which I could but prefer not to because it's going around some window panes as a contrasting color and it's pre-stained and I'm afraid that a joint would be fairly obvious. I wonder if the perfect length wouldn't be closer to 6' as opposed to 8'? Just kindling for thought!
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Sorry to hear about the chronic pain. I am a fellow suffer of it along with bad leg joints (started out with just hips)...been "retired" now for over 20 some years and just in my mid 40's now.

As for long winded, the more pain pills I have taken that day it seems the more I ramble on...or so I am told
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Sorry to hear about the chronic pain. I am a fellow suffer of it along with bad leg joints (started out with just hips)...been "retired" now for over 20 some years and just in my mid 40's now.

As for long winded, the more pain pills I have taken that day it seems the more I ramble on...or so I am told
I can trace my origins back to late elementary school. I started having lower back pain and my parents bought me a new bed and a new mattress but it still would ache. But I was told it was growing pains. I heard that same line till I was 22. And I was basically told there was nothing wrong with me and I just need to push myself. Worst advice I ever got and If I could sue whoever it was that told me that I would. So I pushed and pushed getting tagged as lazy and other creative acronyms. By my early 30's I could barely walk 2 blocks without having to bend over and stretch out my back. And by 42 I could no longer sit in a chair. I'm only 48 now! So I feel your pain. You feel like someone stole your life away from you.

Of course my employer underhandedly changed our disability plan to exclude any pain related condition. I was suppose to have 70% of my salary and ended up with only SSDI. As they handed me a new policy when on the day I went out on disability. I didn't know anything about ERISA laws and requirements and unfortunately neither did any lawyer I talked to until I had exceeded the statute of limitations. I kept saying this is wrong my employer shouldn't be able to expose me to risk without telling me. And I was right. I just couldn't find the right lawyer to tell me I was right till it was too late.

I won't even go into pills. I think that's all I do all day is take pills every 3 or 4 hours I'm taking one thing or another. The thing I hate about the pain pills besides they lose their umph is that they mess up my sleep something fierce. Among some other uncomfortable side effects like (constipation). I actually have had to get the plumber out on more than one occasion because I clog the pipe. And women think men don't have any idea what it feels like to have a baby. I'll stop there!
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I was about 4 when I remember my hip pain starting. Took until just after my 9th birthday for the doctor to take x-rays. He took them to show me nothing was wrong and came back almost in tears because he said they showed my hips were so bad I shouldn't have even been able to walk. He was so sad because he felt he should have paid more attention and noticed it because he also had hip problems himself).

I am 44 now, at least if I remembered the year correctly...was telling people I was 44 or 45 before I turned 44 as I am not always in tune with the time of the normal world Outside of 6:30am/pm when I am supposed to take a certain set amount of pills from one of those weekly pill containers I often don't remember what day of the week it is. To me there are days my Wife is home and days She isn't, not so much named days of the week.

I was working full time and going to college part time when I fell down and started the quick downwards spiral towards being no longer able to work. All I had through work was a 14 week disability policy. Took me several years to get on SSDI and I didn't know enough to get a lawyer. When I finally did get on I only got 6 months of back pay instead of the 3 years it should have been, but statute of limitations got me too.

Did make for some very tough times as we got married in October, I fell in January and since we were young and she was just out of college, low salary. Low enough that my factory job as a laborer/cleanup crew during the winter/ forklift driver, unloading dock night shift supervisor during the summer paid a lot more than she got even though the company I worked at was terrible for it's low pay and weak union (even though it was a Teamsters union).

My brother has a theory, and my normal doc agrees with him, that I just overloaded my systems ability to handle the pain by pushing through it all of those years from 4 until 22. I did lots of things I shouldn't have done, including working as a landscaper during high school, working hauling and cutting firewood starting only a few months after my first surgery at age 9, wrestling in high school and college, playing football my senior year of high school (got to play varsity until a teammate broke his hip. Coach pulled me about 5 plays after the other guy got hurt and I never got to play in another varsity game the rest of the season) After that they got a special ruling that let me play on the JV team even though I was a senior thinking that it was less likely I would get hurt).

I have been stable on my pain pills most of the 12 years or so I have actually been able to get decent pain pills. Had to change dosages when I changed from oxy-contin to ms-contin (insurance rules, the *********'s) and then again when my knees got worse. Basically once the correct level was found I have been able to stay at a stable dosage for years. I don't quite get enough ms-contins to control it enough now, but if I did get the amount I need I wouldn't have hardly any type of alert life at all. So I do without the extra 2-4 pills I need to make it so that I get a few hours awake most every day and on the average day get about 12 hours mostly alert and awake. I do pay attention to my intake before I need to drive and my Wife is almost always around when I use any power cutting tools or has made sure that I am alert before okaying my doing it without Her around...which is a seldom ok as She would prefer She was around no matter what when I did that type of stuff just in case. When I do that kind of stuff or drive without Her I have to call Her when I am done or get to where I was driving so She can stop worrying.

As for the bathroom problems you mentioned, I really know what you mean there...One bit of advice, Fiber One bars. 1/3rd of daily fiber, taste good. Up until recently I needed to have 5 a day normally for 5/3rds of my daily fiber and even then things were not as they should be. But the baby thought....been there, done the screams.

Better stop before I scare the healthy people away from me.
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