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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-19-2012, 03:28 PM Thread Starter
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At the risk of offending somebody by posting a question that is not associated with a router I want to ask a question about the fence and miter gauge that came with my new Grizzly GO513 Band Saw. I have never owned or used a band saw but I wanted one and want to learn how to use one so I bought the saw. Now my neighbor is a old time woodworker and is extremely knowledgeable about such things, and is also a professional electricia spend, this morning wiring in a 220V line for the new saw for me. Afterwards he did the set up on the saw and during that time he told me that I should through the nice cast iron fence and miter gauge that come with the saw in the garbage as it is not needed and in fact will not work on the saw due the drift that is in the blade or blades on all band saws. He went on teil me about a jig that he will show me how to make that that will be used to compensate for the drift of the blade. I'm wondering about what other folks think about this. I appears to me that there is a way to set the fence at an angle to compensate for the drift in the blade, but at this early stage of my experience with a band saw I am about as green as a gord and so I am asking the question. You might have guessed by now that I have not read all of the manual that came with the saw. By the way, my neighbor friend did remark the saw is really nice and that he likes it, I have nothing but positive reviews on this saw is why I decided to buy it over other similiar machines.

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Jerry, I am greatly offended!!!
But then, I've always adhered to the RULES.

Some, maybe most, blades will have a drift. I have a couple of different widths that don't seem to drift. Luck of the draw, I guess.
Yes, you can adjust the fence to compensate for the drift, but I agree with your friend. IMHO, it's a waste of time. I use a jig clamped to the table. It's just a 2X4 cut in an "L" shape. The short leg is about an inch thick and it provides a place to clamp. The long leg is tapered on both sides (on the back side of the "L") to form a rounded point. In use, I draw or score a line on the edge of the board to be resawn and clamp the jig in place at the correct distance from the blade. Then, it's just a matter of swiveling the board against the point to stay on the line.
But don't throw the fence away. It's a great stop for cutting to specific length.
I seldom use the miter gauge .

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Hi Gene,
Your description of your jig sounds "EXEACTLY" like what my friend described to me, so I am looking forward to learning about what the two of you are describing. Thanks for answering my question.

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Jerry keep the fence and miter gauge that came with you new band saw. You will probably find uses for them later, maybe on the saw but maybe somewhere else.

If you still decide to throw them away, throw them in my direction as hard as you can.

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Hi Jerry

Keep the fence,here's a snapshot or two of my fence and guide.



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Keep both the fence and mitre. You will find there are uses for the mitre when a table saw cut is somewhat dangerous. As for drift there are numerous articles on the net about setting up your fence to compensate for drift. A properly set up fence will yield reasonably straight cuts but not anything like a table saw. In my experience a band saw is a very valuable tool but not to be confused with a table saw for precise work in a straight line. In other words if you want a straight cut go to your table saw.
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Jerry,

I haven't used a band saw in thirty plus years so I don't know enough about them to say that your friend's techniques are any better or worse than those developed by the engineers who designed the saw and developed the accessories included with it.

If he is willing to coach you on using your saw to maximum effect, and it almost sounds like he wants to (the off hand offer of technique advice points in that direction) and you trust his opinion, in your situation I would be inclined to learn from him.

I wouldn't throw the accessories away because stuff like that is really handy when creating custom jigs. Just like Mike, my attitude is 'throw em this way' if you need the space that bad....

In those situations where his opinion differs from that of the manual. I would probably try doing a cut both ways and make my own decision about which provided better results and which was 'safer'. My philosophy on power tools is that if its plugged in, it is a risk, whether turned on or not. Exact details of technique and accessories used to make a cut have a huge impact on 'how much' risk a procedure creates.

With band saws my greatest fear is blade breaks. Keeping my hands/clothing away from the cutting edges & other moving parts is deeply embedded second nature with me.

Enjoy learning to use your new saw. For me, a huge portion of the joy that comes with wood working is found in the learning experience of the journey. Arriving at the destination of 'finished project' is a totally different kind of joy. Generally it means I get to put the object to use, and on occassion it means I actually get paid by the person who will be using...

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I agree with the keep the accessories You will find a use for them down the line.

Another thing that will cause a blade to drift is if it is not sharp. If you start having to "force" the wood, its probably time to take a close look at the blade. A dull blade is an accident waiting to happen. Don't ask me know. Got off lucky with just a skin cut. It took me 10 seconds to look at my hand after the sting. Be careful.
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Take a look at Youtube there are a number of good videos there. You will have blade drift but you can compensate for it. As far as being accurate you should be able to resaw stock to 1/8" or less. A band saw can be very accurate once it is set up correctly.
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