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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 04:34 PM Thread Starter
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Hello All,

Just found this forum and it looks like a treasure-trove router tips.

I learned some woodcrafting basics from my Dad and in a 7th grade shop class. I have been making sawdust off and on for about 40 years since.

My latest adventure started with the purchase of a Dakota Arm Gun Stock duplicator... basically a 4-axis pantograph router system. I'm extensively modifying it to handle a templating system for the competition benchrest stocks that I have just started building.

My shop at the moment is a 1-1/2 stall garage packed with a 50" Jet table saw, homemade router table, cheap drill press, Steel City band saw and jointer, Delta planer, a couple of rolling tables for sanders, and tubs of hand- and power- tools I've collected over the years. I have 3 PC routers: one for the duplicator, one for the router table, and one for hand work that is usually set up for my PC dovetail rig.

I look forward to browsing through the posts here and getting to know some of you.

Rod
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Hi Rod,
Your mentioning that you have an interest in making stocks for benchrest shooting sure did catch my eyd. I shot benchrest in competion for several years back in the 70's and 80".
Got into it just before fiberglass came along and the 6PPC ran the .222 off.

My first bechrest rifle was built by Tom Seitz, it was a tight necked .222 with a McMillan barrel. Tom used an XP 100 unsleeved action. The stock was of wood and the actions sat on an aluminum block that was epoxied into the wood. The action made no contact with any wood. The little rifle shot like a house afire and groups in the low .100 were not uncommon at 100 yards, and often aggregated in the mid 200's. I made bullets on set of B&A dies.

If you ever care to swap shooting stories with me let me know. If you are a stock maker I am pretty sure that you a thing or two about how to operate all of those wonderful woodworking tools that you listed.

I am a beginner and am really green, got into woodworking three years ago and I am just learning. I have 10" hybrid TS with the Incra LS Fence Positioner, The Incra miter gauge with fence an sled, a Dewalt 734 planer, a craftsman radial arm saw that I bought used, a PC 893 router in a Mast R lift, the Incra Dovetail jig, a brand new Griz GO513 band saw and a Griz GO604XZ jointer that is still in the box, I have using a PC bench jointer up until now. The only sanding tools are a Craftsman combo belt and cisc saner, and Dewalt vibrating sander. My intial in woodworking came as a result of wanting to simply make nice picture frames for my photographs. I had gotten interested in photography after moving to Texas from Alaska in 2003. When I was in Alaska I did video production for the guides and the tourist industry, this by the way opened the doors to a lot good fishing and hunting.

Hope to hear back from you, by the way, I must admit that I am courious about your using wooden stocks for benchrest shooting.

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CubCouper, welcome!
Jerry, those groups are just short of a miracle. I can imagine scoring a five shot group that small.
Shot .22 smallbore in HS back in the early 60's. No- we didn't load them from the front!
Had Winchester 52D and Remington 513 rifles. Would like to have one now!
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John,
Few people understand want goes into precison shooting, if you check the current NBRSA records it wll blow your mind as to what is beng done today. When I was shooting the three aggregate at the Nationals was won by .28 score, don't remember the exact year, if you don't know what the three gun aggregate means, let me know, I will explain. The precision is associated with that level of shooting is what has caused me to be interested the the most accurate woodworking tools that I can buy. Many of the folks on this forum sort of think that I go a little over board, but also say, to each his own in polite way. They are probably right, but it is the issue of just being able to keep things close that intrigues me.

This forum is not set up to discuss such things as shooting, buit it is good place to meet folks with interests other than woodworkers. Hope to hear back from you John, by the way I shot a range recond in 1981 at 200 yards, the five shot group measured .257". That record was tied two times before the days's shooting was over.

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Greetings Rod,

Welcome to The Router Forums. The gun stock duplicator you described sounds like an interesting machine! Thanks for joining us and I look forward to reading your future posts here.

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Hi CubCouper,
Welcome. Hope you get your 10 posts up quick so we can see shots of your shop and projects as it sounds very interesting.
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Thanks for your reply. I marvel at what can be done with precision power tools such as you refer to. I also marvel at the precision that has been done with handtool by outstanding crafters.

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I am new to this forum and read your post about carving gunstocks. I have been cutting walnut gunstocks for 45 years & just do it now part-time. I have some real nice dry walnut blanks and several big walnut slabs cut if your interested in purchasing some walnut blanks or slabs. Thanks

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Hello All,

Just found this forum and it looks like a treasure-trove router tips.

I learned some woodcrafting basics from my Dad and in a 7th grade shop class. I have been making sawdust off and on for about 40 years since.

My latest adventure started with the purchase of a Dakota Arm Gun Stock duplicator... basically a 4-axis pantograph router system. I'm extensively modifying it to handle a templating system for the competition benchrest stocks that I have just started building.

My shop at the moment is a 1-1/2 stall garage packed with a 50" Jet table saw, homemade router table, cheap drill press, Steel City band saw and jointer, Delta planer, a couple of rolling tables for sanders, and tubs of hand- and power- tools I've collected over the years. I have 3 PC routers: one for the duplicator, one for the router table, and one for hand work that is usually set up for my PC dovetail rig.

I look forward to browsing through the posts here and getting to know some of you.

Rod
Rod,
Are you working with wood, if so, I don't understand in that wood is almost never seen on a benchrest rifle anymore.

Jerry

OOp.s I thought that this was a new thread, sorry.

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Hi cub coupler:
This from an old woodworker. Don't have the money for a duplicator but was wondering if you can turn a butt stock for old cresent 410. Have the old stock but it is broken and re glued and I would like a good walnut stock. If insterested email @ [email protected]. Thanks
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