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I'm starting to get a small basement woodshop setup. My father was a general contractor for his daily business but also a finish carpenter for his favorite work for years. My youth and teens were spent in his shop and the smell of fresh sawdust has always brought back memories and a smile. While I didn't follow in his footsteps I've always wanted to have a small woodshop of my own to do.. my thing. If that's building a small plaque for the horseshoe my 2 year old son received while on vacation, building those Barrister Bookcases the wife has wanted for her book collection, ripping out that custom baseboard trim for the new house or to just kickback, listen to some tunes and sip a cold beer, in "my space".. well then that's my thing.. regardless of if its for the wife, the son or myself! Rule #1 however.. It gets done when it gets done!

Our attached 20x21 2-car garage houses my lawn tractor, 1 of our classic cars, the wife's of course, and the tools and space required for its maintenance. There is no room available here. Since the wife wants nothing to do with the 1400sq/ft unfinished basement, except for some storage, I've decided to setup shop down there for now. Eventually I need to build a decent sized garage/shop out back for our classic cars which will contain a showroom parking area for the completed cars but also a backroom shop for both woodworking and restorations. I'd like this to be roughly 30x42 (or so) giving a 30x18 (3 bays) showroom and a 30x24 shop. With front/rear dormers above for a low but still usable 2nd floor.

I've started to staple up a roll (9'x150' iirc) of Tyvek and taping seams for a fairly inexpensive yet durable and breathable ceiling to keep the bat insulation dust down. Hanging it print up; white backside down will help with lighting as well. This can remain later with a drop tile ceiling when I finish the basement. Bought 5 gals of Behr Basement & Masonry waterproofer paint tinted a light blue called Nordic Sky for the walls to brighten it up a bit. A couple gallons of 1-part Epoxy Behr Concrete & Garage Floor paint for the floors with an abrasive mixture added for a textured and not smooth floor. Think safety you know! NO water issues in basement but I needed something and it was priced right. About 350 sq/ft is a raised crawlspace which will soon have a covered ceiling, painted walls and a framed up wall to be used as storage for household seasonal items and our sports, hiking and camping gear.

My current handtools include what most DIY homeowners have to get by plus a few items I've had for years (decades lol). I have a nail punch set of my grandfathers which was given to my father and these have seen 10s of thousands of nails over the years and still have great tips. I used a new punch from HD last year on the last 2 rows of hardwood flooring and the tapered tips simply mushroomed. Have to start looking for garage sales in retirement communities I think! I've started to add more over the past year and its slowly building.

Power tools include
  1. A new Ridgid R4512 table saw I picked up for 399.95 last month.. priced right! After 3 chats over a 45 minute period to the HD manager ending at 9:45pm he finally caved and gave in to the HF 20% off coupon.
  2. A Bosch 5312 12" dual bevel sliding miter saw I picked up last year on sale.
  3. A Ridgid 6HP/14Gal shop vac being used as a makeshift DC for now. I'm looking at the HF DC, adding a 1micron bag and with a 20% off coupon it should work for my usage.
  4. A Bosch jig saw purchased last year off Amazon for the right price.
  5. A Skill palm sander my wife bought me years ago.
  6. A Porter-Cable 150PSI 6-Gal compressor with a stapler, brad, finish, framing guns and a Freeman flooring gun.
  7. A FEIN FMM 250Q MultiMaster Oscillating tool I picked up last year. This is hands down the winner of all oscillating tools btw.
  8. A Dewalt XRP cordless 18V 6 1/2" circular saw and drill set (included a bag, 2 batteries and a charger) HD had miss-priced a few years ago and I was lucky enough to catch it for $99.99! The saw was about 120 and the drill was about 160 each iirc. I left a happy man that night and both have seen a lot of use over the past few years.

Built 2 small 24" x 48" temporary workbenches from a 2x4s and a sheet of 5/8" plywood a neighbor was tossing. 1 for general shop use and the other more dedicated to reloading and cleaning (another hobby.. can a person have too many). Added a lower shelf to both. The lighting isn't great yet with only 4 75w bulbs lighting the entire basement so I put up a 2 bulb T8 florescent fixture over the benches the other night to help.

The Ridgid R4512 has a nice cast iron top however the side extensions are stamped steep and both have a slight hump in the center and the edges are all rounded so last night I cut some 3/4 MDF and 3/4 oak for edging to replace the left extension. Right side extension will be next however it'll be much longer extending out to the rail ends to incorporate a router table and jig saw. See I got to the router!

While I don't have one yet I am looking to buy a good quality router and soon. Mainly for table mount but also upright as well.
Wife wants to replace all the plain baseboard in the house so it'll get a good workout right away. I think the first router project however will be a sign with Rule #1 hanging over the basement door.

Our son keeps me busy most of the time followed by the wife and the never ending household to-do list. With a new house and a 2 year old most hobbies are put on hold however the shop is progressing as I need it in order to do a growing number of household projects. Nice thing about my hobbies are they are mostly outdoors so they remain active so i can as well!

So there you have it my introduction. Hobbies, shop tools, a few current projects and future plans I have. Great site here and happy I found it. Take care!
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!..."Rule #1 however.. It gets done when it gets done! "!!!
I love it! Consider it stolen!!!!!!!
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Hey Adrenolin

Thanks for joining, if you don’t mind could I ask where the furnace for your house is located?

The reason I ask is because of the dust. Sounds like your safety conscious, and I was just curious if anyone had spoken to you about this issue.

Some kinds of would you don’t want floating through your house, not to mention that your filter for the furnace will need to be replaced regularly, If it’s even in the basement? I could be worried for nothing.

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Hi Adrenolin, Monty is on the right track there. You'll want to be careful about dust going upstairs or the little woman will put an end to your hobby in short order. Have a look at the air returns and where your furnace's air intake is. You know you need dust collection but to keep it efficient you will need a cyclone before it gets to the 1 micron bag or it will plug quickly. Fine Woodworking says you need to go to 0.3 microns to catch the most harmful particles. When and if you can it would be good to run the basement at negative pressure and exhaust outside but this can be a problem with furnaces and gas water heaters as Monty pointed out.

Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell.
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Dan.. I haven't made a deadline in decades and decided long ago if something is worth doing it'll be done right regardless of when someone else thinks it needs to be done. In 40+ years I can't think of a single time when someone said they needed something done by such'nsuch day/time and if it wasn't someone would die. I make a lousy employee and know it. Wife would be the closest thing to an actual boss and even she understand.. Rule #1. Yes she is very understanding lol

Monty, Thanks. Yes we have a natural gas furnace as well as hot water heater located in the basement. Pilot flames 24/7 and I'm familiar with their operations and shutoff valves. Once the basement gets cleaned up, everything is painted and scattered items placed in the new storage area the first thing is to framing up and close off the furnace room. Its also been suggested to have an exterior exhaust fan installed in the furnace room to vent any possible fume build up outside. All the duct work from the furnace throughout the house has sealed seems and was tightly wrapped so its a fairly well contained installation. I replace the furnace filter every 3 months and all floor vents receive new filters at the same time. After this I want to frame up an actual shop area with a filtered DC / compressor closet. If I need to do any big spraying a simple paint booth made from 2x3s, heavy plastic, taped seems, a 1/2 dozen fans, couple filters (dry and wet), some 4" dryer hose and two windows works amazingly well. I have my own fresh air setup for when painting auto parts as well so I don't breath anything in in the enclosure. A couple sweeps from a spray can of poly to protect a small wooden outlet cover would simply be done at the workbench under an open window with a fan blowing outside for a few minutes.

Again this is a temporary basement shop for a year or so until we get settled in and move ahead on the garage out back. I also hate dust, love the smell of sawdust but I'm right there sucking it up when I'm done. A DC will help that much more. If I think there are any safety or health issues I'll usually be the first to step back and re-evaluate the situation.

Great topic for a Basement Workshop Health & Safety thread!
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When you enclose the furnace room, remember you have to provide enough service area in front of the units, AND you have to have sufficient fresh combustion air supply. If you don't provide sufficient combustion air, you could have elevated levels of carbon monoxide.
Be safe!
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Again this is a temporary basement shop for a year or so until we get settled in and move ahead on the garage out back. I also hate dust, love the smell of sawdust but I'm right there sucking it up when I'm done. A DC will help that much more. If I think there are any safety or health issues I'll usually be the first to step back and re-evaluate the situation.

Great topic for a Basement Workshop Health & Safety thread!
The trouble with temporary shop is that it tends to become permanent.

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The trouble with temporary shop is that it tends to become permanent.

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For many that's true . We set aside funds for the garage as well as a pool (may as well tear it all up at once) and landscaping for the back yard when we moved in last year. Too many other things this year take priority. Its possible for it to happen this fall as pools go on sale and installation costs drop quite a bit that time of year. Still I figure we'll get quotes for everything from a number of contractors this year explaining its likely for next year and go ahead then. I'll gladly pay someone to do the in-round pool work and most of the landscaping. I'd prefer to do the garage myself however I'm thinking I'll farm it out to get it roof tight then I'll finish the rest myself. I'll kick back on the patio, beer in hand and supervise
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When you enclose the furnace room, remember you have to provide enough service area in front of the units, AND you have to have sufficient fresh combustion air supply. If you don't provide sufficient combustion air, you could have elevated levels of carbon monoxide.
Be safe!
Yes that is correct. I believe I read we needed at least 22" of service area around the entire furnace though I'll check that before I start. Not an issue though as the furnace room will not be that small. Its located roughly centered (back(south) east wall) on the side wall and the rear corner on that wall has our sump pump. I'll frame up a decent sized room about 10x12. Put a small exterior exhaust fan in the room something like what they use for radon gas as they are fairly inexpensive, can be programmed and are very quite.

The shop itself (back section of the basement) will be framed up and drywall installed to help reduce the dust from getting to the rest of the basement and upstairs. Later after we setup out in the garage this room will become a games-room opening up to an entertainment / bar area (length of west wall) with a 1/2 bath (rear west corner).

Steps are centered in in basement dropping down westward then turning to the front 1/2 way down. This leaves the front (north) east basement corner still empty and I haven't decided what I want there yet. This is the room that will for the time being lead into the furnace room. Likely a place for our exercise equipment/home gym or a basement bedroom for our son when he hits his teens.

The crawl space on the south west would be accessed from the entertainment/bar area through a 1/2 door likely with a dart board setup on it.

Not sure about anyone else but I understood all that anyways
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Sounds right, Adrenolin.
On the air intake to the furnace room, you likely need two intakes from the exterior. One for combustion air and the other for make-up air to the cold air return. For what it costs, I usually called my heating contractor in to do the duct work. I hate doing sheet metal. (Sheet metal hates me...)
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