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Jon here - 42 year old in the middle of England: we moved to the country 2 years ago and finally I got the space and budget (and wifely permission!) to build a single garage-sized workshop in the garden.

Got myself set up with a good dust extractor and table saw along with planer thicknesser: next will come a bandsaw, mortiser and sander along with, of course, a router table.

I'm looking to be able to build things like shoe racks and shelves for less important places like under the stairs to get some practice but eventually I want to be able to do custom cabinets, window seats etc. and perhaps eventually cabinet doors for the kitchen. Also one of the things I'm keen to do is build stacking crates to hold my wife's home-made jam (jelly for the American readers, I guess). Finally it'll be fun to build stuff like kennels for the dogs, bird feeders etc.

Router wise I've got 2 cheap black and decker models and I'll be taking my first look in the flesh at "proper" half inch models at a trade show this weekend. From the reading I've done so far I like the look of Trend and Triton models, not least because they allow height adjustment from above the table without having to buy a separate lift.
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Hello & welcome Jon, new myself sir. Good luck with the shop in the garden, sounds awesome, would love a few pics of your place, sounds really nice. I grew up in the country, miss it.

I had a Kreg Tool rep excitingly tell me all about the Triton routers and their ability to top adjust/raise/etc. I couldn't wait to check them out and while they are beastly, and functionally good machines, don't care for the cheap plastic adjustment knobs, etc, seems quite a few folks do not like the fact they're built somewhat cheap looking, ableit they're beasts motor wise and function well.

I'm also in the router market and am holding out for RIDGID to finish up their next version which supposedly is 3.25 to 3.5 hp. My understanding is they pulled their 2 hp router w/plunger assembly off the market to redesign, they want to be one if not the top tool mfg's. I like something solid built and having a friend from Home Depot with direct intel to RIDGID, little birdie told me to hold up on the Bosch or Porter Gable. So for now my SKIL router will suffice and one day become the spare.
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Thanks for the welcome! Yes, I've read differing opinions on the routers with height adjustment through the plate. Some people think the Trend doesn't lock particularly well and so the height you set can creep during use. That would be no good. It just seems odd to me that more router manufacturers don't allow their plunge routers to be (fine) adjusted from above when mounted in a table. Come to that, I wonder why there aren't too many tables with integrated lifts and motors. Once I have a table I will leave the router mounted in it: I'll use my spare ones for freehand/guide rail/template work.
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Hello folks,

Jon here - 42 year old in the middle of England: we moved to the country 2 years ago and finally I got the space and budget (and wifely permission!) to build a single garage-sized workshop in the garden.

Got myself set up with a good dust extractor and table saw along with planer thicknesser: next will come a bandsaw, mortiser and sander along with, of course, a router table.

I'm looking to be able to build things like shoe racks and shelves for less important places like under the stairs to get some practice but eventually I want to be able to do custom cabinets, window seats etc. and perhaps eventually cabinet doors for the kitchen. Also one of the things I'm keen to do is build stacking crates to hold my wife's home-made jam (jelly for the American readers, I guess). Finally it'll be fun to build stuff like kennels for the dogs, bird feeders etc.

Router wise I've got 2 cheap black and decker models and I'll be taking my first look in the flesh at "proper" half inch models at a trade show this weekend. From the reading I've done so far I like the look of Trend and Triton models, not least because they allow height adjustment from above the table without having to buy a separate lift.
Hello Jon,
Don't hold back. Just make sure you make accurate drawings. Remember the old addage; measure twice, cut once. There is nothing more frustrating than cutting a part too short.
I've never used it, but it looks like a lot of folks are using Sketch-up, a 3D surface modeling program to do their designs. I have used a variety of CAD programs, AutoCAD, DesignCAD and Solidworks, during my career, and I would never start a project without a CAD drawing to eliminate dumb mistakes.
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Hi Jon and a very warm welcome, myself I have three Triton routers and all have performed well so far the MOF001 I bought new to use with my dovetail jig the other 2 TRBs came off ebay needing parts but they were easily had from triton within days, one of these is permanently fixed into my Dakota router table and its a breeze to change the bits from above the table and once set at height so far it hasn't moved at all when in use.
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Hello folks,

Jon here - 42 year old in the middle of England: we moved to the country 2 years ago and finally I got the space and budget (and wifely permission!) to build a single garage-sized workshop in the garden.

Got myself set up with a good dust extractor and table saw along with planer thicknesser: next will come a bandsaw, mortiser and sander along with, of course, a router table.

I'm looking to be able to build things like shoe racks and shelves for less important places like under the stairs to get some practice but eventually I want to be able to do custom cabinets, window seats etc. and perhaps eventually cabinet doors for the kitchen. Also one of the things I'm keen to do is build stacking crates to hold my wife's home-made jam (jelly for the American readers, I guess). Finally it'll be fun to build stuff like kennels for the dogs, bird feeders etc.

Router wise I've got 2 cheap black and decker models and I'll be taking my first look in the flesh at "proper" half inch models at a trade show this weekend. From the reading I've done so far I like the look of Trend and Triton models, not least because they allow height adjustment from above the table without having to buy a separate lift.
Hi Jon, welcome to this forum, I'm up in Yorkshire.
You say you're in a single garage, so I guess your space is limited like mine.
Check this out, I plan to make one:-
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Hi Jon, was the trade show you went to the one at Kempton Park? I went on Friday, thought it was pretty good. Did you decide on a router?
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Hi Jon, was the trade show you went to the one at Kempton Park? I went on Friday, thought it was pretty good. Did you decide on a router?
I did - went on the Sunday and ended up buying a Sheppach Basato 1 bandsaw: the display model from the NMA Tools stand towards the end of the day. Nice little saw with a couple of extra blades for a tidy discount :-> The other thing I spent money on was a couple of Freud crosscut saw blades and the difference from the stock blade on my Charnwood W619 is amazing. I have a piece of scrap that has one end cut using the original blade (which to be fair is a rip blade after all) and the other with the Freud, and the latter is just perfect: wouldn't even need sanding. It really seems to be true that it's worth squeezing the budget to spend as much as possible on blades and bits! Also, to be fair, when Darren at Charnwood sold me the saw he did say that one way they kept the price down was to supply adequate but economy-standard blades and that the machine would be transformed with the addition of a better one.

I took a good while at the show looking at the Trend and Triton routers and tables and I think given the need to optimise space usage and to keep the budget down I reckon I'll be making a table surface to fit on my table saw extension and buying an insert plate. I'll make a false fence to fit on the reverse side of my table saw fence, at least to be going on with. Oh, and I'll need a separate NVR switch I suppose.

Then when the budget allows I'll probably get another insert plate and buy the 2kW Triton router for its chunkiness and integrated above-the-table height adjustment.

I guess I should plan to add legs to the far end of the extension table to support the extra weight and to stabilise the whole thing.
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