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I'd like some input from the glue experts in the forum. For just about all of my projects (step stools, toy cars, band saw boxes, assorted jigs for the shop) i've always use Titebond II. What i like about Titebond is that it has a good initial tack, cleans up with water and beads along glue line can be scrapped off in under an hour. Once cured it takes a saw to get the boards apart. Guess how i know that! What i'm not so crazy about is the long cure time. For successive glue of ups of subcomponents it can take days.

Lately i've been reading about CA glues that come in various viscosities. The big pro appears to be the rapid cure time that would enable multiple glue ups in a day. The big con that i see is the very short open time. The next time I align my glue joints up right the first time will be the first time. I usually need to make small adjustments as i add clamps.

There are my questions:
Are CA joints as strong and long lasting as those made with PVA like Titebond?
What type of projects do you use them on? Doubt if i'd use them on large panels.
What type of CA have you had success with (thin, medium, thick, gel, whatever)?
How difficult is it to clean up glue line of squeeze out?
Any other useful information that you can share?
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I think you'll find that CA glues set too quick for most glue-ups. I tried a 10 minute polyurethane glue once and it was too fast. It didn't give me enough time to get clamps on and make adjustments. I am not sure why you are waiting till full cure up. After 2-4 hrs most joints would be strong enough to work with as long as you don't stress them too hard.

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Glue experts? Where? Where?
Last time I used CA glue was yesterday. Glued a rubber block to plywood. Last time before that, probably was when I glued my fingers together.

I normally use Titebond II, because I like it. Very rarely use anything else, except possibly the occassional epoxy use. I'll stick with Titebond II, it makes me happy.

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" I'll stick with Titebond II, it makes me happy."
I thought that was what plastic model making glue was for? lol

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I use CA a lot for my small projects and I have also used it in conjunction with Titebond for others. For example, I'll put a few drops of CA glue on a mitered corner joint and use Titebond around it. The CA makes the initial bond and acts like a clamp while the Titebond cures. With this system I only have to hold the joint closed with my fingers for about 30 seconds while the CA cures. No other clamping needed.

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" I'll stick with Titebond II, it makes me happy."
I thought that was what plastic model making glue was for? lol

!..."I'll stick with Titebond II" ...that's a great line, Theo!! Copyright it, quick.
I'm stuck on Titebond, 'cause Titebond's stuck on me.

Titebond, not just for wood anymore. I used it to glue strips of denim on my denim trousers, thru D rings, to hold them, for my suspenders to snap to. Well, actually I sewed them on with monafilament fishing line first, but they kept rotating, so I use the strips to keep them in place.
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"I'm stuck on Titebond, 'cause Titebond's stuck on me."

Theo you're supposed to try and keep the glue on the wood.

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I only use CA [superglue] for mending broken ornaments and such.

For all woodworking, I use yellow glue.

I have never had a failure, even using yellow glue for rub joints with no clamps.

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I'd like some input from the glue experts in the forum. For just about all of my projects (step stools, toy cars, band saw boxes, assorted jigs for the shop) i've always use Titebond II. What i like about Titebond is that it has a good initial tack, cleans up with water and beads along glue line can be scrapped off in under an hour. Once cured it takes a saw to get the boards apart. Guess how i know that! What i'm not so crazy about is the long cure time. For successive glue of ups of subcomponents it can take days.

Lately i've been reading about CA glues that come in various viscosities. The big pro appears to be the rapid cure time that would enable multiple glue ups in a day. The big con that i see is the very short open time. The next time I align my glue joints up right the first time will be the first time. I usually need to make small adjustments as i add clamps.

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Are CA joints as strong and long lasting as those made with PVA like Titebond?
What type of projects do you use them on? Doubt if i'd use them on large panels.
What type of CA have you had success with (thin, medium, thick, gel, whatever)?
How difficult is it to clean up glue line of squeeze out?
Any other useful information that you can share?
The thing that you like about Titebond are the same as the things that I like about it, for furniture then the glue is well worth using, CA is good to fix little splits but I would not use it as a jointing glue. N

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