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02-29-2016 06:10 PM
Dejure In the past, I used a router to free hand signs. Never heard of a sled. It would have made keeping control easier.

I also made a lot of signs using my Bosch saber saw. I'd cut the letters out, then router the back and use stainless steel flashing, mirror or scrap stained glass mounted flush with the back (see the shelf-sign photo).

I just bought a Radar Carver and it will be interesting to see what paces it can be put through.

The three I sold the most of were, "JUST MARRIED," JUST DIVORCED" and the Jesus fish. Unfortunately, like most the work I've done over the decades, I don't have photos of examples of all but some relatively recent ones (the digital age helps a lot).
02-29-2016 03:15 PM
Frankj3 Tom, thanks for your input, too. I will put your marketing strategy to work soon.
02-29-2016 12:11 PM
DesertRatTom
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Originally Posted by Frankj3 View Post
BobbyLee,

Here's a link to Eric's formula for pricing signs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0L0...mzlOfgrcAhde2O

I use $30/sqft pricing for my signs.....all words, no drawings. When I am adding any artwork, I tend to add $10 per artwork.

So for me, when using Western Red Cedar fence pickets, I get about $30 for a 6" X 24" with no artwork. I would get $40 for the same sign with one artwork. $50 for the same sign with 2 artworks.

My artwork fees are not written in stone.....if it's a simple design I may charge less.

I try to get 2 weeks to complete a sign after the customer has approved the drawing. I never start a job without their approval.....especially the spelling.

Hope this helps you.
Wow, thanks for the guidelines on pricing. That is always a conundrum.
02-29-2016 12:08 PM
DesertRatTom I think pricing depends a lot on the customer. A lot of sign makers go for swap meets and other outdoor markets. A few will set up in malls, which are now filled with Kiosks. One local woodworker spends the year making band saw boxes and takes a Kiosk every year in a local mall. He gets good prices for goods made from scraps of hardwood (I bet he buys them in bulk, dirt cheap). I would also consider locating every lodge and rustic inn, and bed and breakfasts with rustic decor or location. Find the ones with logos and if you're using a CNC, replicate the logo. Market with a letter and go visit a bunch of places in local areas.

We live down the hill from a mountain resort area with hundreds of lodges. And that's just one of many other nearby areas.

Customized signs like that can be done in some bulk. Let them buy one or two special signs, and if they want a bulk deal on some standard signs (restroom, directions to meeting rooms, and such), then you can either job that out, or make them yourself, or a combination, you cut the logo, the contractor cuts the rest of the sign.

I teach marketing as part of my consulting work, so I can't help but pipe up when something like this shows up on the Forum.
02-28-2016 09:04 PM
Frankj3
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Originally Posted by BobbyLee View Post
When everyone started out what were your best selling signs? WELCOME signs, Signs with sayings, Hunting & Fishing related signs ect? I'm thinking about making up some different Welcome signs and possibly some Hunting signs, since I am in West Virginia and see how that goes. And asking any of the buyers what they would like t see in preference of signs. So a little feedback from my knowledgeable Brothers here...
BobbyLee,

Here's a link to Eric's formula for pricing signs.


I use $30/sqft pricing for my signs.....all words, no drawings. When I am adding any artwork, I tend to add $10 per artwork.

So for me, when using Western Red Cedar fence pickets, I get about $30 for a 6" X 24" with no artwork. I would get $40 for the same sign with one artwork. $50 for the same sign with 2 artworks.

My artwork fees are not written in stone.....if it's a simple design I may charge less.

I try to get 2 weeks to complete a sign after the customer has approved the drawing. I never start a job without their approval.....especially the spelling.

Hope this helps you.
02-28-2016 12:30 PM
JFPNCM A quick glance through the web site recommended by Dovetail shows those prices to be commensurate with what I see for similar work at the local Farmer's markets in the greater Portland, OR area.

Having said that, I agree with Oliver's points.

As an additional thought, my neighbor who makes and sells quality, custom outdoor furniture (tables, chairs, benches etc) from cedar typically charges 2x the materials plus a small up tick. He does not however apply any type of finish to these items.
02-28-2016 10:00 AM
rwl7532 Art is defined by argument as well.
02-27-2016 05:51 PM
hawkeye10
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Originally Posted by Gaffboat View Post
I don't sell my signs, Bobby Lee, so I don't have a tested answer —only an observation.

Generalized signs like "Welcome" or signs with standard sayings are pretty much available everywhere in many different forms. Most of them are mass produced and treated by the consumer as just another commodity, which makes them price sensitive.

You, on the other hand, are creating hand-crafted items which require time, skill, and materials so they should be marketed as special and unique items. I think the key is personalization with the customer's own name or message so the sign is uniquely theirs and you can command a higher price.

You can design "Welcome" and "Man Cave" or "Fishing" signs with room for the customer's name so you don't have to reinvent the wheel each time but have the production advantage of a somewhat standard sign that isn't perceived as a cheap item. I always say, "If you produce many of an item, it's just a commodity. If you produce only one, it's art."
There is truth in what Oliver says. We had one daughter.
02-27-2016 02:12 PM
dovetail_65 Check here for examples and pricing for small custom signs.

https://www.etsy.com/market/custom_wood_signs
02-27-2016 11:23 AM
Jerry Bowen
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I wonder if "Donald Trump for pres" would be a big seller right now? Make hay while the sun shines so too speak
Kind of like the round badges that people pinned on their shirts that rread "I LIKE IKE". How many of you remember those?

Jerry
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