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10-19-2009 11:50 AM
Michael Black I'm interested in the bosch bases, and any other equipment regarding them you feel like selling. My email address is: [email protected]. I check that more frequently than the posts here. Let me know if you want to sell, and maybe we can work something out.

Regards,

Michael
10-18-2009 07:29 PM
dutchman 46 You may want to check out E-bay, They can have good prices, especially when the router was upgraded, or a new model is out.
10-17-2009 08:04 PM
AxlMyk
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Originally Posted by ahkeller View Post
Why would they design so many different under cabinet table tops when the airflow is then sucking dust and chips directly into the motor?
It seems to me that they draw air in through the top, and pass it out through the bit end.
You could always run a 4" duct from outside the RT and direct, or attach it to the top of the router. That would provide clean air to it.
10-17-2009 05:35 PM
ahkeller I should have checked this before now. Hope someone checks back on this. It got worse. I stuck in my PC690 and got through that run of doors, But the next set(there were 27 doors in all, 16 for the back side of the kitchen, 11 for the front/side) I got part way through them, with the 1" bearing, then smoked the PC690. A little different, the router slowed way down, then just died, unlike the abrupt demise of the Bosch. It then smelled like hell again when I turned off the dust collector. Due to the fact that there is limited high end retailers near, I ended up buying a PC890 to finish the job. Still an under-powered 12 amp router. Now I have fixed and plunge bases for the original Bosch and a PC690 with two burned up motors. I've done some research, not worth the money or time to fix, unless I want to experiment with brushes and switches. (shakes head ruefully). I think some of you are on to something with the airflow issue. Why would they design so many different under cabinet table tops when the airflow is then sucking dust and chips directly into the motor? Normally, I use close clearance inlets and a fence dust collector adapter, as well as the cabinet dust collector, but the arched raised panels don't allow for that combination. The job is completed, but now that I've become pretty darn good at arched panels and the Big Scary Panel Bit, I'd like to replace the doors on some earlier projects. Replacing a router every project is rediculous, though. So, my question to the group is.... What am I doing wrong? I dont see how I can provide fresh air only to the motor, when the inlets are right under the bit. The Bench Dog cast iron wing extension and router lift are just absolutely fantastic, but running a 3 1/2 inch bit seems to over power these smaller routers. So is it the power issue? I plan to buy the big 15 amp PC router eventually, but I'm scared I might burn it up too, as well as the 12 amp PC 890 I just bought. Believe it or not, I also own a 240v shaper, but it's never given me good results, so I went with the Bench Dog solution, which was exemplory, until I had to make those doggone raised panels. The shaper has always scared me, the fence sucks, and it was too slow (10k RPM max) and chipped oak like a fiend. BUT I never tried the BSPB with it. Is that the solution maybe? Anyway, long post. I now have TWO complete hard case fixed base and plunge base router kits with burned up routers. I believe the routers themselves are beyond repair. There was some interest earlier in someone acquiring them. I'll check my profile and make sure my email is available. SemperFi, Aaron
10-05-2009 06:24 PM
Birdflu The Bosch 1617 (and the Craftsman - Made by Bosch), has a very powerful cooling fan that sucks air directly into the router - and dust, dirt etc along with it. I am with the earlier suggestion to get the air supply from OUTSIDE the cabinet. There is a very strong possibly that the router maynot be damaged at all. It would be worth it to disassemle the router (unplugged of course) and clean it up as muchas possible. If you can see the armature and it does not look burned, or the windings melter, look to see where the brushes contact the whatever you call it and see if that section is burned. (Most likely). With some emery cloth you may be able to clean that up and you might be back in business.

A question about voiding a warranty - if the router is more than a year old -What Warranty? If less than a year old - carefully disassemble, reassemble, repair and make no modifications you should be ok. After all - Bosch switch replacement can be made by the user - as suggested by BOSCH. Just a thought.
09-22-2009 10:07 PM
jimcrockett If you didn't smell smoke, chances are real good that you did not burn the wiring - burned motor wiring/windings create smoke and a very obnoxious odor. If you have the EVS model, you may have burned out the speed control/soft start module or perhaps the switch. Checking the parts diagram for the 1617, which I also have, I see no thermal overload protector - too bad, that would be simple. I would suggest you visit (or call) your nearest Bosch Service Center, explain the problem to them and either deliver or send the router to them for an estimate. The variable speed/soft start module costs about $27 for a replacement (ToolsPlus)

I also agree with a previous poster who suggested you remove the motor housing cover (two screws) and blow out the interior, particularly around the switch. It may or may not help but it is certainly worth a try.

Jim
08-15-2009 09:45 AM
Mike You can buy a replacement motor by itself so that is the smart way to go. (I did so I don't have to swap bases)
08-14-2009 08:36 PM
Duane867 I got $5 on brushes :P
08-14-2009 07:58 PM
dutchman 46 What has been happening with the router. What have you found out? I am curious and would like to help out others with the information that i can find.
08-12-2009 09:02 AM
Michael Black "I'll let the fixed/plunge parts go to someone for shipping."
If you decide to go this route, I would be interested. I'd want to pay you more than just shipping, though.

Regards,

Michael
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