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|02-22-2010 06:52 PM|
^Hi Knothead. Yeah, nice of the construction guys to leave different sized walls for me to work with. Another thing I noticed is that from the floor to the ground in the left corner is about 96". But the floor to the ground in the other corner is about 96.5". Wonderful. |
So I'm starting to think about the 'base' of the cabinets. What is the common and best method for doing this?
I was thinking since the sides of the cabinets will be not be viewable, that I could build the base as a separate piece and lay down some blocking such as a 2x6 on edge, to the create the toe splash area. Then somehow connect this base to the cabinetry boxes that will sit on top of it. Then put a nice faceplate over the toe splash area to match the face framing on the cabinetry. Does this sound right?
Then I was thinking I could shim the under the support blocking to get things level. Does this sound right?
|02-22-2010 05:03 PM|
|Knothead47||I used to work for a cabinet and lighting gallery. I noticed that your end wall dim's are different. Standard base cabinets are 24 in., front to back, w/o top. You could adjust since you are going to make them. Nice thing about custom work, you can fudge anywhere you want and make things fit. We had some odd dim's in custom work! Looks good and look forward to seeing the end results.|
|02-22-2010 02:11 PM|
After you get started, there will be times when you just take a break and look around. Since you pull into the garage, facing the cabinet, look left and right up high for additional storage options. Even 'above' the vehicles is something to consider. |
I'm a moderator now, but new at it so I can't be of much help getting your link posted...I just don't know how to.. *L*..
Yeah, Lowes, Home Depot, Busy Beaver, what ever the Ca. vendors are.. are all go to
places. For ply and basics like pine, fur, popular, oak and mdf I just head on over to Lowes. the only reason I go there is because I hate those self serve things at HD...
Babinga, paduk, purple heart, zebrawood, rosewood etc, etc, etc.. all those exotics and hard to find domestics are to be had online for a PRICE!!! Once you get into it, and start getting to know your way around, you'll be surprised at how much is available locally if you just know where to look. Personally I like dealing with small shops. Independent guys with a kiln, doing it as much as a hobby as business. I've managed to make a few connections for high end materials when I need them. Prices will vary greatly depending on both local and national markets, supply, demand blah, blah, blah...
As you progress with the project and run into something you're not sure about, stop in and ask around. An amazing wealth of information is available in here!! Trust me, not everyone agrees on how to go about things. You might find a half dozen ways of getting the same thing done. Your bound to find something that will work for you.
Read, inquire, search engines, forums etc.. all are great resources, but there is no substitute for hands on experience.... Even the most experienced among us screw up from time to time..*L*...lord knows, I could write a book, or at least a comic strip!!
I think I would consider looking to build a total of 4 sections, 2 sides (mirror of each other judging by your plans) 1 upper section and one lower...my thinking (and I'm sure there are other opinions that will differ) is that by doing the sides you can cut single sheets of ply longways, thus adding to the structural rigidity of the units. You'll find on a project such as this, dado's are your friend!
as long as you continue with woodworking, you will always be absorbing informatioin...enjoy it~!!
|02-22-2010 10:11 AM|
Yes, this is the are that you see, when you pull into the garage. So this is the back wall. I posted a top-view link, but waiting for moderator approval or something, because it's not showing up yet. |
I'm not sure I have a local supplier for anything other than Lowes or Home Depot. Where do you buy all these other woods like Babinga that I hear mentioned? Although, since this is just for the garage, I'm thinking I like your idea of mixing the wood grade to save money. I wasn't planning on painting it. I think it would look nice if it was wood colored and it would give me practice of finishing which I don't quite understand, but I have a Taunton Press book I need to read on that. I bought a bunch of their books to get started.
So to build in sections, would you build the top 4 sections as 1, 2 or 4 individual pieces? They are all the same size. Also, what about the sides? Would you build the bottom wide deep drawers as one piece, then 'stack' the next piece on top of that, etc? I'm still reading through all these books and trying to absorb just a ton of information.
|02-22-2010 09:26 AM|
The 3/4" oak would work well, if you planned on staining. In fact, from looking at your drawing, you could get away with just a few sheets for the "exposed' sides. the rest you could use a lesser grade 3/4" play since it would be hidden by the cabinet doors/drawers etc. If you were planning on painting, then a paint grade ply would do ya well. Spend some time with your local supplier. Ask a ton of questions and build a relationship. Amazing the mileage you can get out of having a go to guy. If you are in fact planning on paint. MDF isn't a bad choice for the doors with a solid wood trim.
Personally, I think building in sections is the way to go. Just make sure your measurements are on and square.
when you pull into your garage... is the area your working on, directly in front of the cars?
|02-22-2010 04:48 AM|
|02-21-2010 10:29 PM|
Hi TwoSkies |
Thanks for the feedback. I totally forgot to upload the floor plan view drawing, which would offer a better idea of the space I want to build some new cabinets. See below.
As for the CAD + Photoshop, I figure it's probably worth the 10 minutes to create the drawing. I had the idea and symmetry in my head, then laid it out and made fine-tun adjustments in CAD. Then plop into photoshop for a little color and voila
This is a standard 1.5 car garage on a cookie cutter suburban home. It's the only area I have to work with unfortunately. After these cabinets, I'd like to use the left and right sides of the garage to build more storage and working area for my woodworking. But I figure start off with this smallest area first.
The total opening is 10'+ 1-1/4" wide.
No sitting. I debated on being able to have a sitting area. But I really want to maximize the storage space in this little area, but still have some counter space to lay stuff on and reveal for electric outlets. I plan to wire some fluorescent light to the bottom of that center cabinet for lighting the countertop area.
Are you saying use 3/4" oak ply for the framework, then possibly use something else for the doors?
Once I work out the layout for the side walls in the garage, I'll post those too. But that is going to be more challenging I think, because I want room for my Miter Saw, Drill Press, Big Vacuum Suction thingy, etc.
Sectional? Hmmm I'm not sure. That is how I thought it might be easier for me to built. I'm a first timer, so working with extra long pieces of wood doesn't seem inviting. Figure I could build the sides at the same time, since the pieces will be exactly the same, then build the center piece and slide everything together and somehow connect it all. Was thinking of using some 2x4 framing for the base, to create toe splash area.
|02-21-2010 07:49 PM|
WOW... Michael..I'll get you to draw up my cabinets!! very nice work... |
suggestions.. or thoughts...
1: how much room in the opening? If its going to be a regularly used work space, more is better. Be sure to build a heavy duty countertop to take a good pounding or support a vise.
2: I'd go to the left (opposite the door) to the wall. that lil space will just attract dust and spider webs..Give you more room on the door side.
3: Lighting, outlets, will it be at a comfortable height? can you sit at it?
4: 3/4" oak ply, but at 44 a sheet, might get expensive...a whole world of choices for the doors.
5: just good quality hinges would work fine. I'd pay more attention to how you plan on keeping all those doors shut?
6: I think faceframe would give you more support in the long run.
you doing this as a sectional? What are your preferences for finish? Does the wife know what you're up to? *L*...
take some pics along the way and keep us posted on your progress...
|02-21-2010 01:03 PM|
My first Woodworking projects
1. I'm a total newbie to woodworking.
2. I have a design background in both architecture and graphic.
Hello All. I'm in the planning stages of my first woodworking project and I have some questions.
My first project is going to be some garage cabinetry. I'm in dire need of some shelving and drawer space in there, so I went out and measured the areas between two walls that I want to build between.
Here is what I created in AutoCad.
Some notes on the design:
a. I created equal divisions across the entire area. So every door and drawer will be the exact same width. Each division is 1'-3-3/16" wide.
b. Not sure what to use for material yet. I need strong shelving to support about 600 magazine collection which will take up on of the tall side shelving areas.
c. I plan to use edging on the adjustable shelves to increase strength.
1. Does this look like a good layout for some cabinets?
2. Do I need to leave some empty space on the left/right/top against the walls?
3. Anything I have to watch out for, or be careful with, in a design such as this?
4. What materials would you suggest for everything?
5. What kind of hinges would you suggest for the doors? I want sturdy and long lasting.
6. Not sure if I should with a Faceframe design or frameless design. Your thoughts?
Thanks for the help guys. I hope this is the correct forum for these questions.