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01-08-2018 07:57 AM
vchiarelli Neville, the only benefit I can see from this design is the ability to transform a "normal" router table to a horizontal table in a few seconds. The benefits of a horizontal table speak for themselves.
01-08-2018 02:01 AM
neville9999
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In the example I gave of Mark Sternberg's design the router does tilt in relation to the table. That still probably doen't give any advantage with lots of bits. I can't see angling a roman ogee profile for example but it might open up some possibilities when using straight or round nosed bits and you could tweak angles on bevel bits, for whatever that might be worth.
The point I am making is that its a lot of work to make this tilting table so I would want to see some real benefits from doing it, just now I cant see a reason to make it. N
01-03-2018 10:09 PM
Cherryville Chuck
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If you are good at making images in your head then set the table at any angle between the cutter pointing directly up and the cutter fully on its side, there are 90 different positions if you stop it every 1 degree, 180 if you can imagine 1/2 degrees, the thing is that on all of those angles then the cutter is exactly the same in regard to both the table and the fence so at all the angles then nothing changes at all other than the working angle as the wood is in the same relationship to the cutter so I have been wondering what real benefit there is in all the work to make it tilt? Its not like tilting the table makes it a tilting arbour. I would want to see some reason to make it. N
In the example I gave of Mark Sternberg's design the router does tilt in relation to the table. That still probably doen't give any advantage with lots of bits. I can't see angling a roman ogee profile for example but it might open up some possibilities when using straight or round nosed bits and you could tweak angles on bevel bits, for whatever that might be worth.
01-03-2018 09:32 PM
roofner If you are doing raised panels the bit is much smaller if done on horizontal router table.
01-03-2018 05:22 PM
neville9999 If you are good at making images in your head then set the table at any angle between the cutter pointing directly up and the cutter fully on its side, there are 90 different positions if you stop it every 1 degree, 180 if you can imagine 1/2 degrees, the thing is that on all of those angles then the cutter is exactly the same in regard to both the table and the fence so at all the angles then nothing changes at all other than the working angle as the wood is in the same relationship to the cutter so I have been wondering what real benefit there is in all the work to make it tilt? Its not like tilting the table makes it a tilting arbour. I would want to see some reason to make it. N
12-29-2017 02:30 PM
Cherryville Chuck Mark Sternberg makes one that angles to any angle you want: https://routermillwoodworks.weebly.com/

Basically what he did was to attach the frame that holds the router to a round piece of plywood that can be rotated then locked into position. I had forgotten about it until you mentioned that Paul. He posted the prototypes on the forum maybe 5 years ago now.
12-29-2017 01:43 PM
TenGees
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It is an interesting idea but the more I looked at it then I cant see why the table gets flipped up, a first glance you could think it was a variable angle arbour buts it's not as regardless of the angle the table is sitting on then cutter is still square to the table and the fence so regardless of how you set it the cutter angle is still the same, Mike is right and the feed direction would get reversed still I will think about this some more and see if I can see why anyone would need to flip a router table 90degs and use the fence as the table instead of use the table itself. It's a lot of work to make the table so it could flip and so far I don't see why I would do that. N
I think it would make it easier to do mortises, Neville. They show the jig and stops for that. There's also some panel bits which go the other way like that... need less power for those because of the smaller radius.

I would like to be able to angle the cutter too though. That would add a lot of versatility that I could have used for my columns that I had to make a jig for: http://www.routerforums.com/general-...ml#post1327041
12-27-2017 02:55 PM
Cherryville Chuck A little bulky but it looks workable.
12-27-2017 01:12 PM
JOAT
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Not exactly Theo but if you click on the image of it it takes you to the mandolin cafe site and the post above it there is interesting. BJ had made an overhead router setup by adding an L bracket onto the end of a radial arm saw motor and he said it worked pretty good. I'd like something easy to raise and lower. That's why I thought a radial drill press.
Ah, gotcha now. And know exactly what would work for you. And, of course, can't remember where I saw it - it has been a good while. I'll post it if I ever run across it. In the meantime, found this, don't know if it will be of use to you or not, but maybe someone. Homemade Overhead Router System - HomemadeTools.net

I don't need an overhead router, but if I did, I'm sure I could come up with something workable, different, and ugly. Hmm, just hit me, I'm thinking a router mounted to a chunk of 2X4, between 2 chunks of 2X4, backed with 2 chunks of 2X6, separated slightly making a slot, and height likely adjustable by hand but a threaded rod could be used, and locked in place with a bolt (or 2). And all glued together - I don't like metal in my shop projects especially, then if I repurpose the wood, nothing to damage my saw or planer blades. And I'd paint the whole thing bright yellow, to make it cheerful, and to brighten up the shop a bit.
12-27-2017 03:26 AM
Cherryville Chuck Not exactly Theo but if you click on the image of it it takes you to the mandolin cafe site and the post above it there is interesting. BJ had made an overhead router setup by adding an L bracket onto the end of a radial arm saw motor and he said it worked pretty good. I'd like something easy to raise and lower. That's why I thought a radial drill press.
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