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01-15-2019 03:27 PM
DaninVan
Mentoring

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Great project and well executed. Glad to see your daughter is interested in woodworking. One of the discussions that repeatedly comes up at the woodworking club I belong to is the declining number of the younger generations that are interested in woodworking or going into it as a vocation. Haven't come up with a solution yet but we do some outreach when we can.
Barry; our population here on the lower Sunshine Coast is around 30K. Two High schools within a 20 min. drive from each other, both with wood shops. There's an after-school woodworking thing happening (the name of the program escapes me at the moment) where older woodworkers come into the shops and mentor the kids that want to participate. I know that some of the members of the Woodworkers Guild have been very active and supportive.
I really hope the program catches on and prospers.
01-15-2019 01:52 PM
Knothead47 A bit off topic but bear with me. Barry747, my father ran into the "hire a younger guy" in the appliance industry. Why hire a 50 yo engineer when a company can get a graduate engineer at less pay! They overlook the 20 years experience. It's a shame that the crafts are losing experienced persons who are getting up in years. And there are no school programs to fill positions for the future. One local county school has automotive classes and carpentry classes. The carpentry class builds an actual house on campus!
Back to electronics and related fields- I recall reading about a University of Texas student who made $1million from his dorm room, writing software. Why go to school?
Thanks for reading the thoughts of a 71 yo guy.
01-15-2019 01:11 PM
marecat3 She did a great job. I miss my lathe, maybe I will have one again someday.
12-24-2018 01:39 PM
JOAT
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Schools are closing wood shop as no one is interested in it. One person somewhere said a while back they can make more money designing video games.
Not sure on that, heard years ago schools were doing away with shop because they could save money by doing that. And yes, some of the kids do want to design video games - so they don't have to work.

Doing away with shop is leading to less competent workers, AC, carpenters, and so on. I think it is a major error on doing away with shop classes. I took shop from the 4th grade on, hand tools, then a huge belt/disc sander in the 9th grade, and a coal forge. In the 10th grade we moved to power tools, commercial table saw, metal lathe, metal milling machine, and a new variety of hand tools. Also drafting. I helped make the sheet metal hood for the coal forge. Learned metal casting, welding. I went in the Army after high school, and didn't keep track of any of my classmates. Did later find out that two made their livings making pole barns, and one went from backyard body work to owning a body shop.

Doing away with shop is a major error to my mind. Be better off doing away with computer class - they seem to pick that up on their own anyway.

Oops, forgot to mention. Those snowmen look as good as any I have seen in stores. They should sell well if she decides to sell some.
12-23-2018 10:27 PM
artman60 Awesome post, just awesome! Congrats!
12-23-2018 08:26 PM
kp91 Painting in progress, just a couple of touch ups needed before they are presented tomorrow
12-23-2018 05:54 PM
RainMan 2.0
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kp91 hit it on the nail head (don't forget to countersink it). Our turning club has a few young members but the core is older grey headed or bald headed guys. We do have three ladies that turn some fantastic things. Schools are closing wood shop as no one is interested in it. One person somewhere said a while back they can make more money designing video games .
Sad that itís come to this. I can see a generation with no life smarts whatsoever coming up .
Well there already here actually
12-23-2018 05:51 PM
Barry747 John, our club too is mostly older guys but we do have some younger and some women. We have over 100 members and the average meeting has 50 - 60 attendees. The club meets in Sarasota, FL so, during the season, which runs roughly from after Thanksgiving to Easter, we also get some "snow birds" and the attendance goes up. I don't know what the future of woodworking will be. My uncles were woodworkers and built store fixtures. They had a good business for a lot of years but, in the end, couldn't compete with factory built stuff.

My career happened to be in IT. It's a good field when you're young but not when you get older. You don't find a lot of companies looking for 50 year old programmers.
12-23-2018 12:44 PM
Knothead47 kp91 hit it on the nail head (don't forget to countersink it). Our turning club has a few young members but the core is older grey headed or bald headed guys. We do have three ladies that turn some fantastic things. Schools are closing wood shop as no one is interested in it. One person somewhere said a while back they can make more money designing video games.
12-22-2018 04:53 PM
kp91
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Originally Posted by Barry747 View Post
Great project and well executed. Glad to see your daughter is interested in woodworking. One of the discussions that repeatedly comes up at the woodworking club I belong to is the declining number of the younger generations that are interested in woodworking or going into it as a vocation. Haven't come up with a solution yet but we do some outreach when we can.
Barry,

A quick project that can be accomplished in 30-50 minutes is key at first. Kids don't have patience to watch the glue dry. That is why I like the scrollsaw (and later on the lathe) because you can 'see' a project come together before your eyes. It's especially harder in the high-speed internet generation.

Daughter 1 enjoyed the creative nature of the hobby, she was not comfortable around power tools. She told me that the scrollsaw just terrified her at first. In her case I probably should have used more hand tools with her.

Both girls enjoyed making pinewood derby cars for scouts, and I think that is a great way to get youngsters started with basic tools. I love that Lowes and HD have quick projects to build on Saturday mornings, we only built one project there however because our Saturdays were always packed with sports.

The good news is that the current 'Maker Movement' is bringing a lot of 20 year olds into the creating hobby. They tend to do projects that involve mixing different materials, or modifying existing projects but they still acquire a lot of the skills over time. Hopefully there will be a few converts to woodworking. I am thankful every day for some of the talented YouTube channels, who can package the hobby in an interesting and relevant way to these kids. They learn, they get inspired, and maybe get their feet wet in the hobby as well.
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