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04-09-2019 11:20 PM
gdonham1 I have a Jet 16-32 and paper changes can be challenging. The side against the motor is always the worst. The tool is hard to use but is the only way to go. You hook it in the hole of the spring loaded finger and flip the tool up on top of the drum. That holds the finger open. Wrap your paper keeping it tight and if possible reach down and get hold of the end of the paper after it is inserted in the slot where the spring loaded finger is. Hold the paper tight and move the Tuff Tool back over the side of the drum and that lets the spring loaded finger grab the end of the paper. Sometimes it is easier to do the side next to the motor first and wrap the paper around and attach on the open side last. That sounds backward but what ever works works.

The paper must be tight on the drum or it makes noise (a slapping sound), gets wrapped over it self and burns your work and ruins the paper. When running your work through the machine keep alternating from side to side and down the middle. This gives you even wear on the paper and makes the paper last longer. Also get one of the gum type sand paper cleaning sticks and clean the paper periodically to keep it from loading up. You must always use dust collection or the paper wont last till the water gets hot and will smoke you out of your shop and fill your lungs with fine dust.

Also important is that you have the right amount of the tail of the paper in the spring loaded slot. Too wide and the paper will not hold, too little and it slips out. You should have about the same amount of the tapered end through both slots the same amount. This is trail and error method but after you get it right a few times it will be simplier.
04-09-2019 11:28 AM
JFPNCM I second the comments from David and Herb. I have the Supermax 16/32 and couldn’t be happier. Prior to the purchase I used my neighbors old (pre Jet) Supermax and the updates are superb.
04-08-2019 07:54 PM
Herb Stoops
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Malcolm I can't offer you any advice but I was thinking about buying one and this thread has given me reason to rethink that possibility. So then the question becomes is there a comparable drum sander which has an easier means of changing belts?
David's tip is go0od. I bought the Supermax 16/32 to replace my Performax 16/ 32 because i won a gift certificate for $500. and sold my old one for $500. At that time they ran $1100. + shipping. The Performax was $1400. + shipping. The new this year 16/32 SuperMax has way more freatures than the Performax. If I couldn't get a SuperMax, I would buy a Jet,which is the improved Performax. They extended the shaft out on the Jet so there is more room from the motor to the end of the drum on the right side which is easier to get to the RH clip. You can't go wrong with either, I Use my drum sander as much as my table saw. I would not have a shop W/O one, and I can change belts in less than 3 min. everytime.

Herb
04-08-2019 08:13 AM
difalkner
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Malcolm I can't offer you any advice but I was thinking about buying one and this thread has given me reason to rethink that possibility. So then the question becomes is there a comparable drum sander which has an easier means of changing belts?
Take a look at SuperMax.

David
04-08-2019 07:50 AM
billyjim Malcolm I can't offer you any advice but I was thinking about buying one and this thread has given me reason to rethink that possibility. So then the question becomes is there a comparable drum sander which has an easier means of changing belts?
04-08-2019 06:38 AM
kywoodchopper Anything to help in getting this paper installed in the 10-20 Jet drum sander.

Thanks
04-06-2019 07:17 PM
Bob Adams I have had my Grizzly drum sander for about 10yrs, I regretted the purchase from the start because changing the paper was at least a 2 hour ordeal. I was to the point of taking it to the dump and doing without a drum sander. As a last gasp effort I bought this hook and loop conversion kit similar to this, https://www.grizzly.com/products/Gri...d-G1079R/H5037. It was for a 2 roller machine, but I thought for $41.00 it was worth a shot. I cut the hook and loop to the size of my paper, cleaned the drum with acetone, and installed it. It made all the difference! It now takes me 10 minutes to change the paper and most of that is in cutting the new paper to size.
There are a couple "cons" to this conversion, first it changes the diameter of the drum, so the paper has to be cut from a roll. Next the paper is slightly more expensive, and last the hook and loop creates a "cushion" so you have to take lighter passes. But I have found that the paper lasts much longer and I can't remember the last time the paper caked up and started burnishing the wood.
I still have a full roll of the hook and loop, I don't remember the length, but it is more than enough to do your machine. It's yours for the cost of shipping if you are interested. Just send me a PM.
04-06-2019 12:14 PM
Herb Stoops
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I have the tool and I am not impressed with it. Trying to get it back out isn't easy. I figured whoever developed the sander also developed the tool. As my mama would say...useless as tits on a bull. I tried using dental picks, but they weren't strong enough for the sting. Something tells me I'm not going to heaven after some of the things I said yesterday while working on this sander.
I was like you at first, and just threw the tool in the drawer. Then another wood worker sent me a link to a utube video of how to use the tool and after a couple of tries , I got the hang of it.

Also I found that I had to trim the ends on some of the sanding belts to get the taper narrowed down so that the tensioning spring would tighten the belt. It deepened a lot on how much of the end I put in the starter clip on the left side when I started the sanding belt wrap.

I got so I would buy the rolls of sanding belt from Klingspor that I cut my own belts to length,I used the belt I took off as a pattern. But I could trim the tapers on the end to fit that way with a pair of those 99 cent HF scissors.

Be sure to check the belt tension after you make a couple of runs, like David said, because any slack in the belt will cause overlap and ruin the new belt in a hurry. I hope this helps those are great machines, Malcolm.
Herb
04-06-2019 11:52 AM
Cherryville Chuck You probably uttered some of the same words I did Malcolm. I can't figure out why they put the hardest clip to operate on the blind side of the drum. If it was on the open end it would be much easier.
04-06-2019 06:37 AM
kywoodchopper I have the tool and I am not impressed with it. Trying to get it back out isn't easy. I figured whoever developed the sander also developed the tool. As my mama would say...useless as tits on a bull. I tried using dental picks, but they weren't strong enough for the sting. Something tells me I'm not going to heaven after some of the things I said yesterday while working on this sander.
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