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01-07-2017 09:15 PM
DesertRatTom
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Originally Posted by Cherryville Chuck View Post
Have they stopped teaching proper grammar and spelling at school? I noticed that about 20 to 25 years after I graduated that few young people could conjugate the verb "to see" anymore. It became I seen instead of I saw. And I don't think it's possible for a young person to string a sentence together without using the word like, sometimes several times. That to me is like listening to someone drag their fingernails across a blackboard. It drives me nuts.
I don't remember anything about English grammar from school. Diagramming sentences, for example, drove me crazy. However, I've always read quality literature, so my sentences are usually correct. Strunk and White's rules for writers is a terrific foundation for good writing, but I'm not sure many English teachers today are familiar with the work. Being a good writer gives a person a distinct advantage in life.
01-07-2017 06:40 PM
Cherryville Chuck True Dan but what do they do when the battery dies or the electronics go for crap? I can`t tell you how many young people I've seen at cash registers who can make change without looking at the cash register. And if you give them change so that you don`t get change back they look like they are suddenly in crisis mode. Most in our generation could easily do the math without even having to think about it.
01-07-2017 06:15 PM
DaninVan They no longer teach the young 'uns how to sharpen a pen quill either...
Lets not ignore the fact that virtually any kid over 6 can use almost any electronic device almost intuitively, whereas I, and I'm guessing a couple of other old farts, have trouble navigating our cellphones.
01-07-2017 05:25 PM
Jerry Bowen
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Originally Posted by Cherryville Chuck View Post
Have they stopped teaching proper grammar and spelling at school? I noticed that about 20 to 25 years after I graduated that few young people could conjugate the verb "to see" anymore. It became I seen instead of I saw. And I don't think it's possible for a young person to string a sentence together without using the word like, sometimes several times. That to me is like listening to someone drag their fingernails across a blackboard. It drives me nuts.

I had an occasion to ask Vesta's granddaughter a question sometime ago about what is being taught in school in regard to writing. The granddaughter is a grade school teacher. She told me, as I recall, that they do not teach cursive at all in her school.

The whole education system is a mess in my opinion. Several years ago I listened to what an eighth grader had to know in order to graduate from grade school back in the 1920's and it was much more than what a college student would have to know today in order to graduate.

I am wondering if the newscasters are just reading from a teleprompter that has been programed by younger people as the issue of "I seen" instead of "I saw" is a common error by the newscasters.

Then there is the issue of dropping the conjuction "that" which bugs me too. I could go on and on as I have said earlier in this thread.

Jerry
01-07-2017 01:57 PM
Cherryville Chuck Have they stopped teaching proper grammar and spelling at school? I noticed that about 20 to 25 years after I graduated that few young people could conjugate the verb "to see" anymore. It became I seen instead of I saw. And I don't think it's possible for a young person to string a sentence together without using the word like, sometimes several times. That to me is like listening to someone drag their fingernails across a blackboard. It drives me nuts.
01-07-2017 01:32 PM
Jerry Bowen
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Originally Posted by vindaloo View Post
Ah, got it Jerry. You are right. Were needs no at at the end. And I always read your posts, albeit that I have little to say in reply.
Fact is, I had forgotten a lot of the rules until I met a lady friend that was a proof reader for a newspaper and she got me straightened out on a lot issues that I needed to be reminded of, the one in this issue about the use of "at" was only one of them.

I was amazed, after she pointed it out, how many expensive signs exist with mis-spelled words. Signs that had cost the owners a lot of money. For the most part, I had never noticed them until she pointed them out. Right now, I can't recall one of them to use as an example.

The woman who was the proof reader told me that when she was proofing a job that she read the material backwards and by doing that errors in spel\g jumped out at her quicker than when she read from left to right.

I'm flattered that you read my posts and threads by the way,

Jerry
01-07-2017 09:17 AM
vindaloo Ah, got it Jerry. You are right. Were needs no at at the end. And I always read your posts, albeit that I have little to say in reply.
01-06-2017 05:21 PM
Jerry Bowen
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Originally Posted by vindaloo View Post
Sorry Jerry, I'm confused. If I said 'the people were the stadium' that would be wrong, whereas if I said 'the people were at the stadium' it would be right. Is this not correct?
Angie,

Glad to see that somebody is watching. The issue is that using "at" at the end of a sentence is where the error exists. When you say that the people were at the stadium. That statement and the use of "at" is correct. When one says, for example, "The stadium is where the people were at". Would be incorrect in that the word "at" is not necessary to make the statement understandable. To use "at" is said to be redundant when it used at the end of the sentence in the example above.

Dpes this clear things up for you? Let me know

Jerry
01-06-2017 04:42 PM
vindaloo Sorry Jerry, I'm confused. If I said 'the people were the stadium' that would be wrong, whereas if I said 'the people were at the stadium' it would be right. Is this not correct?
01-04-2017 08:59 PM
Jerry Bowen
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Originally Posted by vchiarelli View Post
@Jerry Bowen - as the Newfoundlanders would say, "stay where you're at, and I'll come where you're to"
Vince,
Classic example, it should be "stay where you are, and I'll come to where you are.
At is redundant when used after where you are, however, who really cares.

As I said earlier, in business the use of incorrect use of English can often be detrimental to you, especially in sales or when interviewing for a job. It has to do how one presents him or herself such as the way that you dress and your personal hygiene. At least that is what , I was taught in in grade school 66 years ago, perhaps the the problem is that society has been going to the dogs in many ways, in my opinion, during those past many years. The proof of this might be in the posts that I get to my opinion that do not agree with my position on the matter.

Jerry
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