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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 03-03-2018, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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looking for some advice and opinions on purchasing a plunge base router.
im sure this topic has been discussed many times but could not find information in the criteria im after.

i currently have a bosch palm router for edge treatment and small stuff and a beefy Milwaukee 3.5 HP in my router table. love both of these routers but I would like something to fill the gap in between to be handheld for plunge routing around the 2 HP range.
i used to have a cheap 2 HP plung ryobi that I really hated using and i managed to burn the motor on it last year.
my beefy milwaukee router does not have a plunge base and I hate taking it in and out of the router table.
the palm router cannot take a 1/2 inch collet and is ok for edge treatment but it struggles on larger cuts.

here is the criteria im after : would need to be a plunge base( dont mind if it comes with a fixed base combo kit). .must be able to accept 1/2 inch cullet( would be better if can do both 1/4 and 1/2 inch).something in the mid size so it's not to heavy/ bulky to use.
so far I have been looking at the bosch MRP23EVS and Milwaukee 5616 EVS 2.4 HP.
i love my bosch colt but im not to sure I like the idea on the new bosch about the electrical connection between the plunge base and the motor housing with the trigger being on the handle. the idea is great but it seems like it's a problem waiting to happen as it would be a matter of time before dust gets in there and interrupts the connection.???

also when looking up reviews online several people mentioned issues with the plunge base and that it has about 1/16 of lateral play in it . also i know that i would need to buy more parts for it to like base adaptors for bushing guides' since they do not fit standard bushing.

as for the Milwaukee 2.4 HP I found good reviews with no issues but they all refer to the fixed base and could not find any information about the use of the plunge base.
i dropped by a local tool store, l wanted to get a feel for the routers and see what they stock. (they did not have any milwaukee or bosch routers in stock but other brands).

the sales person quickly referred me to the porter cable 895PK model and said it would be HANDS DOWN THE BETTER ROUTER. ...he steered me clear away from any other brands when it comes to routers..... when i came home i looked up the PC model reviews and found out that people have been having issues with their plunge base and there is lots of play in it as well as there is no micro adjust.....
so the more i look into it the more confused i become......i would like to hear opinions from people that have these routers.
i know i would want something with a sturdy plunge base with a micro adjust. I would love to hear peoples experience before i put my money were my mouth is.
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welcome N/A to the forums..
it's a Bosch 1617EVSPK that you are looking for...
here you ya go ..
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new generation Porter Cable isn't like the real deal PC's...
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Plunge routers are my main tool and the only Bosch 1/2" one that I've owned had play in the columns so I sold it to someone who wasn't critical. Apart from the Triton TRA-001 in the table, all my routers have been 1/2" Makitas which all have an excellent plunge action and NO play in the columns. They also have a LARGE opening allowing full view of what the bit is doing. A wide selection of template guides are available and in any case are relatively easy to make, unlike those for the Bosch which have a bayonet fitting. Collet reducers are available to take 6mm,8mm, and 10mm bits, these adaptors are suitable for ALL 1/2" collet chucks. I always recommend around 3hp as these will do everything that a lower power one will do plus a great deal more.
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Welcome to the forums Roy - wondering what part of Canada you're from - I'm in the Niagara region.

I've got the Bosch 1617EVSPK, as Stick mentioned - it's a great router for both hand held and table mounting. Variable speed, soft start and adjustable from above if it's in a table. Very happy with it. In a previous thread, @DaninVan indicated he purchased the router with a fixed base only, then found the need to purchase the plunge base seperately. I'd suggest getting both bases in the kit.
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Don't think you'd go wrong with the Bosch, Makita or the Triton. My go to for power, ease of use and longevity is the Freud FT3000VCE. Freud makes some really crappy bits and saw blades but their FT3000 VCE is a dream.

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"@DaninVan indicated he purchased the router with a fixed base only, then found the need to purchase the plunge base seperately. I'd suggest getting both bases in the kit."

And paid dearly...$$$$. Really bad decision on my part, not buying the combo from the get-go. Other than that, yup, the Bosch 1617 is a great router (in all fairness, I don't really like the slick surface on the round wood knob handles.)
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Hi Roy and welcome from BC. The 1617 is a good choice. I have a Hitachi M12VC on fixed only but 2 big M12s In plunge only. If the plunge model of the VC is as good as the big models then it is worth a look.

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I don't really like the slick surface on the round wood knob handles.)
so rough them up...

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so rough them up...
They're too pretty the way they are...
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They're too pretty the way they are...
so quit your whining...

This would have been the week that I'd have finished chewing thru the restraints...
If only new layers hadn't been added....

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