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My preference is a foot switch, from Harbor Freight. Step on the switch, machine starts. Get startled, and you automatically step back, therefore your foot goes off the switch, machine stops. Makes me feel a lot safer than having to find a switch you have to turn off by hand.
I had mine mounted on the front left corner . I just leaned on it to stop if I had to . Never thought of the foot idea though

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I had mine mounted on the front left corner . I just leaned on it to stop if I had to . Never thought of the foot idea though
Had mine for years. They actually have two types. One, you step on the switch to turn it on, then take your foot off. Then you have to step on it again, to shut it off. Don't like that idea at all, might as well just have a regular switch. The one I have looks the same, but you have to keep your foot on it to keep whatever powered. I much prefer this type.

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vince that was my initial plan too using the switch with a the 1617 but i waited so long to build the table i ran across a mast r lift 2 for $279 awhile back and was going to go with my old 7518. so that rockler switch might not work with the big pc? i found a manual for the 7518 online but it doesnt say how many amps it is. it may be for a todays 7518. who knows if the specs in it still applies to a 1990s 7518
Proper 20 amp 120 volt plugs are different then 15 amp 120 volt. If it has the factory plug that will tell you what it was designed for. Also I suspect if you were pulling over 15 amps your breaker would have tripped assuming that the outlet is wired properly. A 15 amp circuit/120 volt requires a #12 wire. If the switches you've had go bad are rated at 15 amp it may well be poorly manufactured devices, poor connections, or a problem with the router. If you don't have one, buy or borrow a clamp on amp gauge and check the amp draw of the router under use. That may require you using the router while someone checks the amp draw. Most motor have an initial very fast spike in amp draw and fall back to run load amps but the loading of the motor makes a big difference as well. The age and condition of the tool can make a big difference as well.

I'd also make sure any switches you buy are UL listed. I've got several I've been using for a number of years and they have all done well. Pretty sure it's this one....https://www.rockler.com/safety-power-tool-switch

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Proper 20 amp 120 volt plugs are different then 15 amp 120 volt. If it has the factory plug that will tell you what it was designed for. Also I suspect if you were pulling over 15 amps your breaker would have tripped assuming that the outlet is wired properly. A 15 amp circuit/120 volt requires a #12 wire. If the switches you've had go bad are rated at 15 amp it may well be poorly manufactured devices, poor connections, or a problem with the router. If you don't have one, buy or borrow a clamp on amp gauge and check the amp draw of the router under use. That may require you using the router while someone checks the amp draw. Most motor have an initial very fast spike in amp draw and fall back to run load amps but the loading of the motor makes a big difference as well. The age and condition of the tool can make a big difference as well.

I'd also make sure any switches you buy are UL listed. I've got several I've been using for a number of years and they have all done well. Pretty sure it's this one....https://www.rockler.com/safety-power-tool-switch

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Steve: that's the item I linked to in a previous post, and the item I have on my router table, with a Bosch 1617 attached. That switch is rated for 15 amp and the 7518 is also rated at 15 amp but Tim indicated that Rockler switch won't work with the PC7518 - I'm not sure why.

I'm in the process of redoing my shop, and had an electrician swap out my (full) panel with a new one, upgrade my service from 100 amp to 200 amp and add a few extra circuits, including a 220 and several 20 amp plugs on their own circuit. So, I went from one circuit (and a bunch of extension cords) in my unfinished basement to several circuits to accommodate my tools, a basement fridge and freezer, each on their own circuit - something I've been planning to do for about 16 years - OK, I'm a procrastinator. I'll post pictures of the basement/shop redo when I've got all my tools in their final landing spots.

If that switch doesn't work with the PC7518 I'd like someone to explain why, as I'm fairly illiterate when it comes to electrical stuff.

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Steve: that's the item I linked to in a previous post, and the item I have on my router table, with a Bosch 1617 attached. That switch is rated for 15 amp and the 7518 is also rated at 15 amp but Tim indicated that Rockler switch won't work with the PC7518 - I'm not sure why.

I'm in the process of redoing my shop, and had an electrician swap out my (full) panel with a new one, upgrade my service from 100 amp to 200 amp and add a few extra circuits, including a 220 and several 20 amp plugs on their own circuit. So, I went from one circuit (and a bunch of extension cords) in my unfinished basement to several circuits to accommodate my tools, a basement fridge and freezer, each on their own circuit - something I've been planning to do for about 16 years - OK, I'm a procrastinator. I'll post pictures of the basement/shop redo when I've got all my tools in their final landing spots.

If that switch doesn't work with the PC7518 I'd like someone to explain why, as I'm fairly illiterate when it comes to electrical stuff.
The only thing I can think of is that the description states it is compatible with the soft start routers. Maybe the PC7518 starts at too high a starting amp draw? Of course if it becomes too much of an issue there are always mechanical starters that use heaters based on amp draw but that would seem very unusual for a standard tool. Those are used to aid in motor protection and we used those on large HP commercial AC systems and 3 phase equipment.

Sounds like some clarification is needed.
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Steve: that's the item I linked to in a previous post, and the item I have on my router table, with a Bosch 1617 attached. That switch is rated for 15 amp and the 7518 is also rated at 15 amp but Tim indicated that Rockler switch won't work with the PC7518 - I'm not sure why.

I'm in the process of redoing my shop, and had an electrician swap out my (full) panel with a new one, upgrade my service from 100 amp to 200 amp and add a few extra circuits, including a 220 and several 20 amp plugs on their own circuit. So, I went from one circuit (and a bunch of extension cords) in my unfinished basement to several circuits to accommodate my tools, a basement fridge and freezer, each on their own circuit - something I've been planning to do for about 16 years - OK, I'm a procrastinator. I'll post pictures of the basement/shop redo when I've got all my tools in their final landing spots.

If that switch doesn't work with the PC7518 I'd like someone to explain why, as I'm fairly illiterate when it comes to electrical stuff.
i haven't tried it yet. when i said that switch and the 1617 was my initial plan i intended on using a woodpecker plate that's drilled for the 1617. now that i lucked into an affordable mast r lift i can go with my old 7518. i haven't even built the cabinet yet for my new table. i've been pretty slow about getting it started. not an epic insulation type delay but it's been awhile. the backs been acting up a bit and i haven't been in the garage much lately.
our house is only 2 years younger than i am and the panel is pretty small and almost full. when they buried the electrical to our house several years ago they put in a 2nd panel on the patio that hasn't got much in it. seemed strange to me but it was free and that's how the city hooked up the new buried line. i know very little about electrical stuff either. i might have someone come out and see if i need a bigger circuit or two out in the garage .

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i haven't tried it yet. i haven't even built the cabinet yet for my new table. i've been pretty slow about getting it started. not an epic insulation type delay but it's been awhile. the backs been acting up a bit and i haven't been in the garage much lately.
our house is only 2 years younger than i am and the panel is pretty small and almost full. when they buried the electrical to our house several years ago they put in a 2nd panel on the patio that hasn't got much in it. seemed strange to me but it was free and that's how the city hooked up the new buried line. i know very little about electrical stuff either. i might have someone come out and see if i need a bigger circuit or two out in the garage .
If you get a competent electrician he'll like suggest running a single line into the garage and install a sun-panel. Depending on the size of your 2nd panel it might be worthy to run a 60/100 amp line to the garage and have a 20 space sub-panel installed. You may think that you won't need near that much and probably don't but you'll have plenty of future power and space instead of any of those, wish I hada. The single line between panels will end up cheaper and easier than multiples later. Just saying.......at least get it priced and see.
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i haven't tried it yet. when i said that switch and the 1617 was my initial plan i intended on using a woodpecker plate that's drilled for the 1617. now that i lucked into an affordable mast r lift i can go with my old 7518. i haven't even built the cabinet yet for my new table. i've been pretty slow about getting it started. not an epic insulation type delay but it's been awhile. the backs been acting up a bit and i haven't been in the garage much lately.
our house is only 2 years younger than i am and the panel is pretty small and almost full. when they buried the electrical to our house several years ago they put in a 2nd panel on the patio that hasn't got much in it. seemed strange to me but it was free and that's how the city hooked up the new buried line. i know very little about electrical stuff either. i might have someone come out and see if i need a bigger circuit or two out in the garage .
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If you get a competent electrician he'll like suggest running a single line into the garage and install a sun-panel. Depending on the size of your 2nd panel it might be worthy to run a 60/100 amp line to the garage and have a 20 space sub-panel installed. You may think that you won't need near that much and probably don't but you'll have plenty of future power and space instead of any of those, wish I hada. The single line between panels will end up cheaper and easier than multiples later. Just saying.......at least get it priced and see.
The original panel that my builder installed 16 years ago was a Federal Pioneer with 32 slots, but was full and we only had 100 amp coming into the house. Several years ago I spent a few hours tracking every light and plug in the house back to the panel - yes it was time consuming. When I decided to finish most of my basement I felt it was necessary to bring in an electrician and discuss my requirements with him. My feed from the meter ran under my poured garage floor into the panel in the basement and it was fairly easy for him to upgrade my service to 200 amp after Hydro disconnected the meter. He then installed a new panel that has capacity for 80 breakers and after having him run 220 into the shop as well as a 20 amp circuit and two 15 amp circuits I have a lot of room for further expansion. At the same time I had him install a whole-home surge protector. Yes, it was a little costly, but I feel it was well worth it, and as I said earlier, I've been thinking about doing this for a number of years.

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Not sure I've ever seen a residential 200 amp panel with 80 circuits. I have seen plenty of 40 space 80 circuit panels but those allow use of tandem breakers. My SqD 200 amp main panel has 40 spaces but is not approved for tandem breakers so I added a sub-panel.

I added a sub-panel for the observatory feeding it with a 60 amp line not that it needed that much but I also keep the camper plugged in so that's 15 max in itself. Everything else, computer, mount, focuser, CCD camera w/8 position filter wheel, dew heaters, roof drive system (3 ph using an AC motor controller), lights and receptacles (including 2 GFI) probably take less than 5 amps. But the GFI's can take a full 20 amp load if needed. You never know. The sub-panel in the observatory is 20 space of which I'm using 10. More is better and cost is usually less for the more common sizes. I think a 16 space was more money as it's not as popular.

For those looking to replace or add on to your panels, look for national brands and see if they are approved to take tandem breakers. A tandem breaker is usually a dual 115 volt 15 or 20 amp double breaker (2 switches) that fits in a single space. It can get you out of a pinch sometimes. But do not attempt to use one in a panel not approved because there is s very good reason for that and you leave yourself wide open to insurance issues should you ever have problems. And insurance companies love to find reasons to decline a claim.
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I've found that light switches don't last on high start-up current things. A soft-start router probably doesn't have the same start-up surge as an older tool might, though. On my table, I put a switch like the pic below. The 2 pole ones are the same price as a single pole. If you use one pole only you have a spare pole if you burn one set of contacts. Or... you could bridge the contacts and it will likely last longer.

That switch is 2 pole, 20 amps, 2 HP (about C$10 at Busy Bee Tools). I believe routers are rated at some other (somewhat exaggerated?) type of HP.

It would be hard to trip those switches accidentally as you have to pull the flap up. I mounted mine so that the router plug is accessible from the back of the metal box.
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