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Thought I'd throw in a little Men at Work to start off. I was going to cut a groove in a cutting board, and my carefully measured template would guide me a nice groove about 1" from the sides and 1" from the ends. It was an inside template cut from " ply. I put the template guide in my plunge router, turned it on, and lowered it into the piece. Proceeding clockwise I made the first turn and ran up the edge, and suddenly discovered that my router was wandering away from the template, and had made an absolute hash of my cutting board, which fortunately is for my wife, not for someone important but I have two more to make, and I now have to cut the edges off my wife's and start making her a smaller cutting board.

Was my mistake in proceeding clockwise? I've just come in after turning off the router and throwing it down on the workpiece, but I'm thinking maybe if I had gone in the other direction, the router may have pulled towards the template instead of wandering. Is this right, or should I just take a sedative and try again? (NO, I won't take a sedative and use a power tool; I already cut myself with a hacksaw today. )

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HI Roger

Here's simple rule, on the outside edge of a template/board always push the router away from you.. on the inside of template always pull the router to you. (clockwise move)

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Thought I'd throw in a little Men at Work to start off. I was going to cut a groove in a cutting board, and my carefully measured template would guide me a nice groove about 1" from the sides and 1" from the ends. It was an inside template cut from " ply. I put the template guide in my plunge router, turned it on, and lowered it into the piece. Proceeding clockwise I made the first turn and ran up the edge, and suddenly discovered that my router was wandering away from the template, and had made an absolute hash of my cutting board, which fortunately is for my wife, not for someone important but I have two more to make, and I now have to cut the edges off my wife's and start making her a smaller cutting board.

Was my mistake in proceeding clockwise? I've just come in after turning off the router and throwing it down on the workpiece, but I'm thinking maybe if I had gone in the other direction, the router may have pulled towards the template instead of wandering. Is this right, or should I just take a sedative and try again? (NO, I won't take a sedative and use a power tool; I already cut myself with a hacksaw today. )



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Hmm. Thanks! I was pushing, but pushing clockwise on the outside of the template. So I went back outside in the freezing cold and tried again. Magically it worked fine, but I blew the breaker twice by forgetting to turn the heater off before I turned the router on, and finally the heater tripped the breaker all by itself, so I just swore a little and came inside. It's only 1 outside, but it's a cold 1 and I think I'll let the heater run for a while before I go in there tomorrow night.

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I am wondering what is a cold 1 degree is there a warm 1 degree? Haha ... Sounds like they are all cold to Me it was 36 degrees here last night here and that felt cold enough.... warmed up to 62 degrees and that was just right.I hope You can stay warm .....

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I am wondering what is a cold 1 degree is there a warm 1 degree? Haha ... Sounds like they are all cold to Me it was 36 degrees here last night here and that felt cold enough.... warmed up to 62 degrees and that was just right.I hope You can stay warm .....
Well, 1 Canadian degree is about 34 American degrees. 1 degree is colder when there is a wind blowing, it's cloudy and there's a lot of humidity in the air. It can be quite tolerable when the sun is shining and there's no wind. Now, when we get down to -20 or -30 in early February, that's always cold. The heater in my shed measures American degrees, and can heat the shed up to about 50, that's 10C (for Canadian.) Livable. We're very good at making warm houses in Canada.

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Warren, 1 C /34 F isn't cold to us. "Wind Chill" can cause that to be quite uncomfortable. TV stations here report Wind Chill ratings along with actual temperatures; 34 F / Wind Chill feels like -10 F.

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Thought I'd throw in a little Men at Work to start off. I was going to cut a groove in a cutting board, and my carefully measured template would guide me a nice groove about 1" from the sides and 1" from the ends. It was an inside template cut from " ply. I put the template guide in my plunge router, turned it on, and lowered it into the piece. Proceeding clockwise I made the first turn and ran up the edge, and suddenly discovered that my router was wandering away from the template, and had made an absolute hash of my cutting board, which fortunately is for my wife, not for someone important but I have two more to make, and I now have to cut the edges off my wife's and start making her a smaller cutting board.

Was my mistake in proceeding clockwise? I've just come in after turning off the router and throwing it down on the workpiece, but I'm thinking maybe if I had gone in the other direction, the router may have pulled towards the template instead of wandering. Is this right, or should I just take a sedative and try again? (NO, I won't take a sedative and use a power tool; I already cut myself with a hacksaw today. )
When you say it was an inside template Roger, I'm not sure if you mean it was a female template, if it was then clockwise was correct, but if it was a male one then anti-clockwise would be the way to go. It's important that the template guide is kept pressed against the template.
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This novel length story is intended to illustrate that everyone occasionally drops a clanger, the secret is to become adept at saving projects when things go wrong.
Thanks for that. The groove I was cutting was fairly deep, and I don't have a planer, but the board is very big so losing an inch or so off the edges still leaves a very usable cutting board. I was using my wife's for practice, as the other ones are Xmas presents for relatives.

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Hey Roger, Sorry to hear about your mishap and the cold weather, it was about 80 degrees today and had the fan on in my shop. Good luck zarpman Melbourne, Fl.
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Roger, I don't know if it would be worth it to you but if you can find a cabinet shop around they will probably run it thru their sander for $5-$10 bucks.
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