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I do use CBDesigner 2.0 that was recently commented on in this forum, and I did buy a program to optimize sheet stock usage when I was doing a few nice orders of plywood boxes.

The current tequila gift box is for a client that's literally pushing me to shave every 1/8" possible out of the design, and a CAD program would have helped. Having to answer "how big a hole do you need for a tapered shot glass so that the rim is the same height as the oddly shaped Patron bottle" is probably always going to be answered with trial and error ... but then converting that to a nice drawing would be much more impressive to the client than my scratchings.
Love the Cracker Thing - a scraps solution if I ever saw one!

I need to learn CAD and graph paper is my computer program for the moment...

Would love to see your Tequila creation when you have ready - those jobs are worth developing for clientele who can afford them for the maximum presentation effect.

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I use Sketchup Make it works well for everything I have done. There is a learning curve though. I found this a good resource https://sketchupforwoodworkers.com/
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In college, my major was Drafting Design Technology and I used to draw up my projects with drafting board, triangles, and pencil. Through the years my jobs changed from drafting board to computer-aided drawing (CAD).

Now I usually start a project with a ruff scetch where I decide overall measurements as well as measurements for design details.
For CNC projects I use this scetch to do my drawing in Aspire or VCarve Pro.
For other projects that don't require CNC work, I take the scetch to the shop and build the project.
If the project requires some CNC work, like making templates, I will draw the templates in Aspire and cut them first so I can make sure they will work as designed.
If the project requires some CNC work, like carving on some panels of the project to add embellishments, then I will take the design to the shop and start building. After the first day in the shop, I'll take the drawing back to the house and start a file in Aspire for the embellishments I want to make. Then it will be work on the project during the day, work on the CNC files at night until the files are ready and the panels have been made, sanded and prepped for carving.

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I loved Sketchup until they went to the web. Now it is just frustrating.

DesignSpark Mechanical is a good FREE program that has lots of training videos on You Tube.

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I loved Sketchup until they went to the web. Now it is just frustrating.

DesignSpark Mechanical is a good FREE program that has lots of training videos on You Tube.

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I just use a crayon on the inside of a paper bag. As long as I stay within the lines I feel good.
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I'm a graph paper guy (quad pads). I hadn't realized it but they're available as either 4 or 5 squares to the inch. I've ever only used the 4 to the inch pads...each square being a 1/4" (obviously).
I pick up a pack of 5 pads in Aug. / Sept when school supplies are on sale; they're cheap like borscht then.
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I am a sketcher and occasionally use graph paper to get an idea of size and proportion. For some drawings, I use the drawing set in Micro$oft Word. It keeps lines square and plumb. I've posted many of these over the years. I like the discipline of working with precise, straight lines.

But I actually work from the mental image I form of the easier projects, with a little help from my sketch on basic dimensions. I've pretty much settled on story sticks for inside measures, cutting slightly proud and trimming down for an exact fit. Luckily I grew up in the radio age, so my ability to visualize is pretty dang good. Many kids today just can't visualize or form persistent mental images.
I've sketched since I was a kid. Now I finalize my drafts onto graph paper, which give the straight lines. And/or use a ruler for straight line. Rough drafts, straight lines are just drawn out, accuracy is not required, just the concept.

I've been able to visualize images since I was a kid. I think everyone has that ability, but it's a if you don't use it you lose it thing. I know I've told people I can do that, and get back, "I can't do that", and they won't even try to do it, because "they can't do it". Thinking about that I think growing up with just radio, and books, that definitely increased my ability. Books especially, no sound effects, no creaking doors, no announcer saying what is about to happen, just imagination. Now kids are into video games and movies, so it's no wonder they can't visualize things. I put it all to not using their own imagination, but just accepting what the creator of the game or movies.

I can not only visualize things, I can visualize them in color - used to think everyone could, but apparently not. Also, can visualize them in 3D, and rotate or move whatever I'm visualizing - this I don't know if other people can do or not, but I think that meditating for about the last 50 years might have had something to do with it.

On top of it all, it's fun to grab a pencil, cheet of paper, and just start sketching. Always used to try to have one of those paper desk pads (or whatever they're called). Very handy, in the lower right corner I would write down all phone numbers I got over the phone I needed to use. Then the rest of the pad was covered with sketches. Next morning, tear off the top sheet, write down the phone numbers I still needed, and start a new day. Now adays I have half a dozen or so spiral lined notebooks and a batch of steno pads, and normally have one or the other with me almost anywhere I go.

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Almost forgot. This is possibly my favorite alcohol gift box ever.
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