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I would like to build a wall cabinet in the hall just off the kitchen to store large kitchen gear, e.g. crock pot, waffle iron, large pots, etc.
I am attaching a couple of pictures and would appreciate your thoughts and ideas. There is baseboard heat at the bottom of the area and would like to leave the bench where it is. I will build out of red oak cabinet grade ply to match kitchen cabinets.
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Wall with key hooks. Door trim to corner is 40 1/2".

Wall with picture. Corner trim to corner is 20".

Ceiling height is 92".

Exterior Door is Left Hand Inswing.
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My initial thought would be to make it look like the other cabinets in the kitchen...just for consistency...

Other thoughts would be about leaving the bench underneath it...will it become a "head-banger"...?

In considering the size (width) it would be important to think about how far the door needs to open...that will help to drive the width...maybe 36" might allow the door to swing a bit more...? Swinging the door too far would put the corner of the cabinet into the glass...

Might not have helped directly to your question...but just some things to consider in your design...

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Thank You. I can't remember ever sitting on the bench....just pile junk on it. Also, the bench limits how wide the exterior door can open now so I figure if the cabinet doesn't extend past the bench the door glass won't hit the new cabinet. I will follow the basic design of the existing kitchen cabinets i.e. face frame, rail and stile doors (I bought the router bits when I had to rebuild one of the existing doors).
Just not sure how tall to make the new cabinet. Good place for a corner cabinet but I would like to get more space than what a corner cabinet would provide.
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If you never sit on the bench why not take it out and do cabinet that sits on the floor. That will give a lot more storage space. A red oak wall hanging cabinet won't match the dark bench.
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I agree with Dennis on taking the bench out. If you make a unit with a lower cabinet for heavier items, then a space in the middle to "replace" the function your bench currently provides and then a top section for lighter items, it may serve you better than a hanging cabinet...all one unit, of course.

You said you have 20" between frame and corner...you might want to make the lower cabinet wider and then bring it in for the upper cabinet (old country kitchen style)...the entire 20" for the lower and maybe 15 or 16 for the upper.

Seems like you may have several options.

For the hot air vent at the base, you could channel it out the bottom of the lower part of the unit and still provide it's heat/air into the room rather than blocking it...some 4 inch rectangular ducting would take care of that...

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There is a baseboard heater behind the bench. Not sure how far away a cabinet would have to be in order not to interfere with the heat output.
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Is the kitchen just to the right of the picture?

Is there any way to remove the (looks like) door between the sections and just expand the kitchen cabinets so it flowed well?

If not I would be more inclined to go floor to ceiling with a pantry style build and bump the heater out to the front of the new pantry.
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Kitchen is to the right. The trim at the edge of the wall that has the picture is the door frame from the kitchen into the hall area. The refrigerator is on the other side of the wall that has the picture. The baseboard heater is forced hot water so moving it is doable but I'd rather not. I suppose I could extend the cabinet to the floor and leave the bottom area open to channel the heat outwards?
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This is one of those perfect projects for Sketchup, Jim. You can create the walls and then try various ideas and sizes of cabinets to see how they look and fit. You don't even have to be a Sketchup expert. Just use basic block shapes and you'll get a good feel for dimensions and appearance and which way the cabinets should face.
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The baseboard heater will require a certain amount of clearances which should be in the specs for the heater. Try to find that model online at the manufacturer's website and see what the spec sheet says about it or find something very similar and go with that.

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